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RP-40-9n

03-28-2007 15:08:52




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just got a stick welder, and the lens in the helmet is so dark i cant see to use it. is there a kind of goggles for safely welding? the helmet is not much fun, your brearh fogs the lens that you already cant see through. how about polarized shades? prescription glasses? anything? RP




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butch in Me

04-01-2007 14:07:44




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to RP-40-9n, 03-28-2007 15:08:52  
RP my first full time job was something over 50 years ago it was welding urge you to take these folks advise years from now you will be glade you did if you ever see someone that has been hurt becase did not listen to ones that have been there



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TheOldHokie

03-29-2007 05:25:20




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to RP-40-9n, 03-28-2007 15:08:52  
Auto-darkening helmet - best thing since sliced bread. Inexpensive Taiwanese units start at about $50 at HF.

TOH



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dan hill

03-29-2007 15:24:44




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to TheOldHokie, 03-29-2007 05:25:20  
wont risk my eye sight on cheap helmets.Ask fellows who use one about eye burn....



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Tim...Ok

03-29-2007 05:13:37




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to RP-40-9n, 03-28-2007 15:08:52  
Cover as much skin as you can stand..I"ve got blisters on my upper arm right now cause it was hot and I was welding in a tshirt last weekend..still hurts like hell..a 10 shade is about right for arc welding,takes some practice but you"ll get used to that helmet..Personally don"t like the auto darkening helmets,they will flash you if you are working on something where you don"t always have a good line of sight to the arc...Probably be ok for simple projects though..my $200 Miller auto helmet sits on the shelf collecting dust,cause I don"t like getting flashed..

HTH,
Tim

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dan hill

03-29-2007 04:56:26




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to RP-40-9n, 03-28-2007 15:08:52  
Dont weld with a butane cigarette lighter in your pockets or wear insulated vests.Cotton clothes are best.Poly ester cloth will melt if welding sparks ignite it.After you have got some hot metal or slag down your neck or inside your shoes you will understand.Welding aint easy..



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DON TX

03-28-2007 21:18:33




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to RP-40-9n, 03-28-2007 15:08:52  
I got an autodark helmet at TSC a couple of yrs ago and I wouldn't want to weld without it. Flipping the hood down I always seem to loose the target. My eyes are to the point I can't see in low light situations and I've got the t-shirt on eye burns twice as a young man. I don't like waking up at 2 in the am feeling like someone snuck in and put a spoonful of sand in my eyes. Took me a couple of times before I learned to trust the helmet. I test mine by flicking a lighter in front of it and watch the lens darken quickly. Also you want to watchout for blocking the sensor while welding. Make sure it "see's" the arc. If it doesn't seem to be working, make sure the sensor is in the arcs path. HTH
DON TX

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RP-40-9N

03-28-2007 19:09:58




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to RP-40-9n, 03-28-2007 15:08:52  
THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT ADVICE GUYS, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. rp



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wayne11

03-28-2007 18:55:17




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to RP-40-9n, 03-28-2007 15:08:52  
I scared my retinas when I was young and ignorant. I used too light of a lense. I was totaly blind for two weeks and had to wear special dark glasses for over a year to protect my eyes. You don't want to be able to see through the lense before you strike the arc. Use a shade 10-11 and keep the helmet raised while you move close but do not set the arc. Nod to allow the helmet to fall over your eyes before you strike. Good luck and be careful. You can find basic welding help on the internet.

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old

03-28-2007 18:50:13




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to RP-40-9n, 03-28-2007 15:08:52  
My self I always use what is called a gold lens, yes its real gold plate and costs more but well worth it on your eye site. In years past I tried the goggle type welding lens set up and let me tell you after the sun burn I got NEVER ever again. Also be sure you always use a helmit. I've been to the hospital more then once from welder burned eyes and thats also no fun but when you work in a welding shop like I did back then it happens. Long sleeve shirts are also nice unless you like to look like a lobster, yes welders will sun burn any skin that is in the open, right now my arms are red from welding for the past couple of days.

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duey

03-28-2007 18:40:49




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to RP-40-9n, 03-28-2007 15:08:52  
RP, if you use just goggles, you can get a fantastic sunburn from the arc... During a long days work, you can find yourself hospitalized from the burns. There is a reason the helmet covers so much skin.

And yes, as mentioned, you can get different shades of lens... and even those fast auto-dimming helmets...

Stay away from goggles for arc welding..

duey



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Hank ABAB

03-28-2007 17:19:51




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to RP-40-9n, 03-28-2007 15:08:52  
For using the smaller diameter rods you will likely use, I would suggest going with a shade 9 in your helmet.



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kozz

03-28-2007 16:44:00




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to RP-40-9n, 03-28-2007 15:08:52  
hey RP,, if you need prescriptioin glasses
you can wear them inside your welding sheild
or you can get magifing lens that fit inside
your sheild from your welding supply store. But keep the sheild down when you strike that ark or you will damage your eyes. also make sure
no one else is watching when you are welding
or they will damage their eyes also. anti fog spray works also.

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john hunt

03-28-2007 16:21:30




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to RP-40-9n, 03-28-2007 15:08:52  
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hey new welder.. first thing first be careful you can go blind welding by over watch the shield ..where you watch bright light from welding.. look thur the green lens only .. not around at the light ..
you buy a good welding heltem any where on the web harbor freight has one less $100.00

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Sean (TX)

03-28-2007 15:52:13




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to RP-40-9n, 03-28-2007 15:08:52  
What did you break? Ill agree those auto darkning hoods are the way to go. Need to get me one. With the hood I have now if the sun is out I can see just enough. Other wise get the stick close and then put the hood down and strike a arc. Watching that arc with out protection will burn your eye balls.

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dan hill

03-28-2007 15:26:29




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to RP-40-9n, 03-28-2007 15:08:52  
You have to use the helmet.Welding lens come in several shades, 10 being most common.Better study welding basics before you try to weld.Weld spatter on the face or neck is bad news.Eye burn is something you dont want.Dont weld around animals or children the arc will burn their eyes.this caution goes for stupid adults also.The welding arc will give you a sun burn on exposed skin.



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Gaspump

03-28-2007 15:21:00




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to RP-40-9n, 03-28-2007 15:08:52  
The welding arc would seriously burn your face if you were only wearing goggles. I suggest taking you tinted lens to a welding supply shop and get a lighter shade if yours is really too dark, while there you can buy some anti-fog too. The auto darkening shields are great, better ones are adjustable as to darkness too. $100+ for a good one.



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Gregg E

03-28-2007 15:14:13




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to RP-40-9n, 03-28-2007 15:08:52  
they sell an auto darkening hood, as soon as you strike a arc it darkens so you know your on target. with the style hood you have it will take a little practice to get it down
Gregg



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gahorN

03-29-2007 15:01:26




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 Re: O T stick welder help in reply to Gregg E, 03-28-2007 15:14:13  
Welding creates ultraviolet light which WILL cause severe burns similar to sunburn. Wear heavy clothes (leather/cotton are preferred) and use that helmet when arc welding. Goggles are for gas (acetylene) welding only.



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