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how to remove reflector in road, bent my backblade

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PhilipIN

03-29-2007 06:41:45

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I live on a suburban road that has road reflectors in the center lane spaced about every 50'. These reflectors are curved with the traffic to allow tires and snowplows to easily go over. However, the other side is a sharp corner which rises about 3/4" above the road. As I was pushing snow backwards at speed across the road with my 8N this winter I hit the reflector, bent my backblade, and jared the heck out of me and everything else. Anyone know how to remove on of these darned reflectors? I would patch the retangular hole after removal. Thank you. Philip.

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Sean (TX)

03-30-2007 17:36:21

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 06:41:45

They have some blue ones on my street marking the fire plugs. About a foot from the edge of the road. My blade scraped it right up while plowing snow. Oppps forgot they were there...LOL

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Josh0103

03-29-2007 18:04:10

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 06:41:45

Where in Indiana r u located? I'm in southern IN

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PhilipIN

03-30-2007 03:35:08

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to Josh0103, 03-29-2007 18:04:10

Josh, I am afraid to tell now. I got a few replies below from men who sounded out with more conservatism than my mother-in-law. They may turn me in, or are you the snitch! I work in Johnson County and live on the southern boarder of Marion County near Johnson and Shelby Counties. My Mother is from Switzerland and Jefferson Counties. Philip.

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Josh0103

03-30-2007 21:36:21

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-30-2007 03:35:08

Hi philip, No, I'm not a snitch. Just curious if we were nieghbors. I'm around Posey and Vanderburgh counties. As for some of the replies you got, I just about fell out of my chair laughing.All that fus over just one reflector? Give me a break. Some of these guys need to lighten up a bit. No offense implied.
Josh

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Ken(Ark)

03-29-2007 17:55:46

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 06:41:45

12lb sledge hammer before the sun comes up . Yea , and I have also ripped of the tags on my matress that say "do not remove under penalty of law " . You guessed it , I'm a wild man - Ken(Ark)

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cargocult

03-30-2007 02:10:44

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to Ken(Ark), 03-29-2007 17:55:46

12lb sledge hammer before the sun comes up . Yea , and I have also ripped of the tags on my matress that say "do not remove under penalty of law " . You guessed it , I'm a wild man - Ken(Ark)

Right On!! And don't post it on a National Tractor Board 4 da law-abiding folks 2 hassle u (Or worse) Some folks is TOO Law-Abiding (& short on common sense). There are many ways to get them up, and many ways to avoid detection.

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Tool Kat

03-29-2007 16:41:36

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 06:41:45

Whan I lived in FL I saw one of those guys in a beat up car with no doors going by and painting the center line! Always wondered about the OSHA regs on that!

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Sean (TX)

03-29-2007 13:21:56

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 06:41:45

How bad can it be? I broke nine in half and welded it back together. A little bent but its stronger then before.

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john hunt

03-29-2007 12:10:28

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 06:41:45

year ago we have no problem here cailforain we just tow a huey hellchopper up interstate 5 for 200 miles drag it blade no problem pop right off ..

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john hunt

03-29-2007 12:08:41

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 06:41:45

year ago we have no problem here cailforian we just tow a huey hellchopper up hwy 5 for 200 miles drag it blade no problem pop right off

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Lance in Brenham, TX

03-29-2007 12:08:24

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 06:41:45

All these folks gettin' their undies in a knot about one reflector. Half the blacktop roads around here don't even have 'em, and the roads that do have 'em - well, at least a third of 'em are missin' anyways!

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Don in Cal

03-29-2007 11:50:02

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 06:41:45

sell the place and move to sunny California/Florida...no snow to plow here/Florida....use all the x-tra time not removing snow doing something else...haven't looked back since I left Western NY 30+ yrs ago..BTW..whats snow? I've forgotten what it looks like!

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PhilipIN

03-29-2007 11:54:25

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to Don in Cal, 03-29-2007 11:50:02

I have had job offers in both Texas and Mexico and talked with my Wife about moving there. I love both places. She said I (we, including kids) could not live without a little snow, and that I would get bored not be able to use my tractors as much because of the drier climates. We will see as life goes on. Philip.

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Lance in Brenham, TX

03-29-2007 12:12:29

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 11:54:25

You can be on a tractor year round where I live! We use 'em for mowing, plowing, digging post holes, blading, etc...And it's never too cold to ride a tractor here.

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Lance in Brenham, TX

03-29-2007 12:04:15

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 11:54:25

Philip,

Texas is the place to be for sure! California is like a bowl of Grape-nuts cereal - what ain't FRUITS and NUTS is FLAKES!

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Rayintomball

03-29-2007 11:47:22

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 06:41:45

NUKE-IT

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RJ IN WYO

03-29-2007 09:16:53

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 06:41:45

I have to agree with the other replies. it is dot property and were put there for the driving public safty. sorry it is in front of your driveway. but if you knew it was there it isnt dot responsibility to replace your blade. just costly mistake. maybe next time dot crew is out replacing the reflector on a hot day a case of beer may take care of your problem.

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duey

03-29-2007 08:20:47

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 06:41:45

Phil, in MN it not legal to push snow across a roadway (not that many don't still do it!) and most places don't want you doing any plowing on the road..

So many times, the plowers leave a mess and ridges of snow across and these can freeze and pose a traffic hazard.

But go ahead and do what you want... until the Sheriff has a word with you...

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PhilipIN

03-29-2007 08:29:35

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to duey, 03-29-2007 08:20:47

It is illegal to plow snow across the road in Indiana too. I push it well acoss the road into a large pile into the field and clean up the mess because it is in front of my driveway. I then push the snow along the side of the road so the snow plow cannot build as much of a mound in front of my driveway the next time they plow. I also make a nice clean out for the mailman. In case you cant tell, like others here, I am obsesssed with snow plowing and like to show off with a clean and tidy area. Philip.

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duey

03-29-2007 13:55:40

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 08:29:35

So, Philip, you do a knowingly illegal act and now you want the County to help you out...

I must think about this some more..... cause I don't get it..

Spring is here, the snow will melt... wherever it is....

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PhilipIN

03-30-2007 03:26:36

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to duey, 03-29-2007 13:55:40

So, Duey, Yes, I knowingly admit commiting an illegal act, and I still sleep at night. Was not the first, will not be the last. Do you speed? Get over it. And, I NEVER asked the county to help me out. Dont think about it anymore. Respecfully, Philip.

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Vern-MI

03-29-2007 08:11:02

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 06:41:45

Torch it!

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PhilipIN

03-29-2007 08:15:18

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to Vern-MI, 03-29-2007 08:11:02

I have a propane torch. I can get access to a small ocy/acy pack. I think all I would need to do is heat up the epoxy around it. Good thought. Philip.

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Hobo,NC

03-29-2007 07:07:01

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 06:41:45

What a site to see'em put down. theirs a truck that puts down what looks like a spot of tar then a guy follows'em in a old pinto with no doors. Looks like the guy izz lay'n down wif his arm out the door open'n and lays the flecter in the patch of tar. They must not B put down to good cuzz if we git snow the snow plow rips 'bout all of'em up. I spec a BFH would git rid of it

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Ross Pugh(NC)

03-29-2007 13:20:03

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to Hobo,NC, 03-29-2007 07:07:01

Hobo, that stuff that looks like tar to you is a high strenght epoxy, Best ye ever saw if mixed right. I have seen them hold fast enuf to pull up a chunk of pavement. Cost ye about $25.00 each installed fer the cheap ones (plastic).

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Hobo,NC

03-29-2007 15:34:30

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to Ross Pugh(NC), 03-29-2007 13:20:03

And to think I try and miss'em when I pull out to pass, I think i will start to run over all I kin. The flecter man izz probley starv'n to death at that price and needs to upgrade to a Chevett. I recon the reason they stick'em down so good izz so the flecter man don't come back and git'em so he kin resale'em. How much you recon a 5 gal. bucket full of'em izz worth.

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Ross Pugh(NC)

03-29-2007 06:56:46

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 06:41:45

That is DOT property and cost the taxpayers to have it installed. If ye have a problem contact them, you could be charged for removing or damaging the road. Explain your problem to them and they should respond if it is legitimate.

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PhilipIN

03-29-2007 07:17:04

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to Ross Pugh(NC), 03-29-2007 06:56:46

Well, it just cost me a new $500 backblade and they will not pay for that. I thought about contacting them, but my experience shows how far that will go. Call, wait, call again, wait, never gets to the right person, and the answer is no. I would do a very good patch job since the hole would be right in front of my diveway. Thank you for your concerns. If I need a bail bondsman can I call you? Respectfully, Philip.

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Cliff (VA)

03-30-2007 05:42:45

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 07:17:04

Philip,

I bought a badly bent blade. Someone had set it up offset and hooked a fence post. It was so rusted that I could not tell the original color.

I took the blade apart, removed the harded edge, propped it up in my forge, built the largest forge fire I have ever used and heated the bend orange hot. Pulled it out (with help from the wife), laid it on the anvil, and beat on it until it was straight. Wire wheeled everything, primed, painted, and reassembled. The whole process in the forge took about an hour.

My BOL thought I had bought a new one. He could not believe that that rusted and bent pile of junk was the same blade.

You might try finding a blacksmith. You would be surprised how easily steel bends at an orange heat.

Good luck,

Cliff (VA)

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Ken S. LOL

03-29-2007 09:09:56

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 07:17:04

Let me see if I got this straight, You know it's illegal to plow snow across the road, You knew the reflector was there, and know you think the DOT should pay for your back blade??? third party image

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PhilipIN

03-29-2007 09:40:58

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to Ken S. LOL, 03-29-2007 09:09:56

I NEVER said dot should replace the blade at their cost. That is my responsibility, lesson learned. I want to make sure it does not happen again. Hence, my removal plan. Philip.

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Oh, I see

03-29-2007 10:15:28

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 09:40:58

If your convenience is more important to you than public safety, then good luck with your plan.

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PhilipIN

03-29-2007 10:21:06

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to Oh, I see, 03-29-2007 10:15:28

I think you are going overboard with the public safety issue here. I am not removing all of them, just one. I drive down lots of roads without them and I still feel pretty safe. A road reflector has never saved my life. Respecfully, Philip.

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Ross Pugh(NC)

04-01-2007 05:19:33

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 10:21:06

How do ye know a reflector never saved your life?? The last drunk driver ye met on the road at night might have been on his side of the road because of that reflector, or the cars ye meet on a rainy night might be on their side of the road because of the refledtors when ye headlights blinded them. Ye don't know haw close ye have come to death, do ye?

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PhilipIN

04-02-2007 03:44:02

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to Ross Pugh(NC), 04-01-2007 05:19:33

Ross, You need to get out more often. You sound like my Mother-in-Law. Philip.

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Lance in Brenham, TX

03-29-2007 07:31:22

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 07:17:04

"Sometimes a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do"

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Hobo,NC

03-29-2007 07:12:41

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to Ross Pugh(NC), 03-29-2007 06:56:46

Wuz that you drive'n the Pinto, seamed to give one a nice dark tan. Thats Taxpayers property installed by the DOT

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Larry 8N75381

03-29-2007 06:55:46

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 06:41:45

We have those same reflectors in the road in front of my house. They are epoxied in with some very strong epoxy. Rather than try to remove them, I would try to either build up the road surface some or grind off the edge so that either way there is some slope that your blade could ride up on. Some places (Home Depot) have bags of asphalt patching that you might try. Heat the surface of the road and add some tar before applying.

Sounds like a �midnight� job to me.
Good luck!

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PhilipIN

03-29-2007 07:13:15

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to Larry 8N75381, 03-29-2007 06:55:46

I was thinking early Sunday morning, like 5:30 am. I thought about taking my generator and Milwaukee disc grinder out and tapering the edge.

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Kenster

03-29-2007 07:52:08

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 07:13:15

Or... since he knows where it"s at, perhaps he could just avoid it next time he snow plows.

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PhilipIN

03-29-2007 08:13:12

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to Kenster, 03-29-2007 07:52:08

Your kidding right? It has been there for several years, I just happened to hit it this time and it is going to cost me about $500 for a new back blade. Philip.

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Dell (WA)

03-29-2007 10:20:41

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 08:13:12

Philip..... .bett'cha a good welding shop can STRAIGHTEN yer weaksister el-cheapo backblade for less than $100..... ..Dell

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K.LaRue-VA

03-29-2007 11:47:14

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to Dell (WA), 03-29-2007 10:20:41

YES! That was my first thought too! Why spend good money to replace something thats only BENT? Shoot, bent aint even broke yet! If it was me I might even try turning the blade around and hitting the thing again to straighten it, GRIN!!

I just plow until the front tires are at the end of the driveway, then turn around and start the back blade at the edge of the road going back to the house. If I get done first, the snow plow dude will usually try not to block the drive when he goes by.

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Randy(PA)

03-29-2007 09:39:18

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to PhilipIN, 03-29-2007 08:13:12

No, they're not kidding. Leave that thing alone. See what the majority of people are telling you, and back off.

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gahorN

03-29-2007 14:41:00

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Re: how to remove reflector in road, bent my backb in reply to Randy(PA), 03-29-2007 09:39:18

The way the TX DOT removes them during re-paving is to chop them out with a flat-nosed pick. One swing with the pick, hitting the asphalt right at the edge of the reflector, and a short prying-motion and it pops right out. After re-paving they grind out a shallow depression and epoxy it right back in.
But I wouldn't do it without the local DOT engineer's approval, unless you like the idea of spending money in court and on lawyers for destruction of public property.

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