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disc harrow on 8N - newbie looking for tips

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S O'Brien

04-03-2007 11:25:31




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We just got a Farm Star rigid frame tandem disc harrow to use to dig up a large garden and some pastures that need reseeding. I want to use this on a 1950 Ford 8N. The harrow manual suggests adding weight to the front of the tractor -- does anyone here know how much?

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Henry M

04-04-2007 06:08:58




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 Re: disc harrow on 8N - newbie looking for tips in reply to S O'Brien, 04-03-2007 11:25:31  
OBrian

I would hook it up and try it out carefully to see if you need front weight or not. I grew up on a hillside farm and we farmed the clay with a 2 N. We never added any weight to the front but you always had to be ready to drop the disk when you were on an uphill and wanted to raise the disk. The ole two N had a habit of walking around on its hind legs. The disk was at least 6 foot. As stated though, that thing would never disk up ground that had not been plowed.

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davpal

04-03-2007 23:00:50




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 Re: disc harrow on 8N - newbie looking for tips in reply to S O'Brien, 04-03-2007 11:25:31  
You don't need to put any weight on the front of an 8n with a three point disk on the back. I have a tandem axle king cutter 6 1/2 foot disk that is very heavy on the back of my 9n and it does just fine with it. I drive it all over on various types of terrain and have never even had the front get remotely lite. I always drive around with a 500 lb john deere brush hog on it too. Down the road 17 mph. I do have a front bumper on mine though so maybe that helps a little. I have had a dirt scoop on mine with about a 800 lb rock in it and the tractor would only lift it about a few inches off the ground. Front end was still on the ground just fine.

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Dell (WA)

04-03-2007 18:37:12




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 Re: disc harrow on 8N - newbie looking for tips in reply to S O'Brien, 04-03-2007 11:25:31  
O'brien..... ...the "secret" to disc harrows is WEIGHT unless yer soil is frangible. (recently plowed) The secret to ADDITIONAL WEIGHT can be old engine block, old railroad ties, BIG ROCKS, BARRELS of WATER. Use yer imagination.

Unfortunately, the N-Hydraulics run out of lift at about 750-800#. It should be intuitively obvious, make yer EXTRA WEIGHT removable.

And yes, additional front axle weight can be helpful in lifting and steering with heavy rear attachments. Tip: garage sale weight-lifter platters make good cheap front weights. A clever shadetree mechanic can figger out many different ways to hold weight platters to the front bumper..... ...Dell, the clever

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souNdguy

04-03-2007 11:33:06




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 Re: disc harrow on 8N - newbie looking for tips in reply to S O'Brien, 04-03-2007 11:25:31  
You usualy counterweight the front to keep it from coming of fthe ground when you lift a heavy 3pt implement.

The 8n front will come up at about 800# or so.. with the lift lifting perhaps up to 1000# if in good working order and a favorable wind.

Add counterweight to suit. it's not a direct # for # thing due to the lenght from the pivot ( rear axle 0.

For instance.. 420# on the front of my ford 5000 keeps 2500# of load ballanced..

Soundguy

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A. Bohemian

04-03-2007 12:25:13




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 It May Be the Wrong Implement. in reply to souNdguy, 04-03-2007 11:33:06  
It is much better to deep-plow for gardens and pastures first, using a plow meant for the purpose.

There are exceptions. If the soil has been plowed properly recently, it may still be loose enough to get the results you want with a disc plow.

It will also help if you can catch the soil moisture right. You want the soil to crumble smoothly in your hand, not pack into a tight ball. As a general rule, drier is better than wetter with a disc harrow. You'll know right away if the soil is too wet; it will pack itself tightly between the discs.

Generally, though, a disc plow light enough to be handled by this class of tractor is intended for breaking up larger dirt clods that have already been loosened by a plow meant for that purpose, not preparing tightly-packed ground for seeding.

It will tend to run along the surface of the ground, instead of digging into it more than an inch or two, and in order to promote rapid root growth, you want the soil loose to a depth of a foot or more.

Good luck. Keep us posted.

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