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tom_ca

04-04-2007 04:36:07




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would this be okay for dells secret trick

10-WATT, 5% WIRE-WOUND RESISTOR 2719046
$3.99
Wire-wound resistor for all of your do-it-yourself electronic repairs. 10 watts, 5%, non-inductive. One piece at 1k Ohm.




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RickSCt

04-04-2007 09:08:25




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 Re: Resistor info in reply to tom_ca, 04-04-2007 04:36:07  

Tom if you email me I have a couple extra and I'll mail you one. Rick



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Bob

04-04-2007 06:26:01




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 Re: Resistor info in reply to tom_ca, 04-04-2007 04:36:07  
One group of "12-Volt" coils being sold nowadays work just fine with the OEM ballast resistor that was used with the origianal 6-Volt system.

If you have that resistor; you can try it with your new "12-Volt" coil.

I will NOT hurt to try the OEM resistor; which has a higher resistance than the .5 Ohm "trick" resistor.

If spark is too weak; go to "plan B" and try the .5 Ohm 20 Watt "trick" resistor.

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souNdguy

04-04-2007 06:38:08




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 Re: Resistor info in reply to Bob, 04-04-2007 06:26:01  
Hmm.. don't see too many non ind wire wounds these daya.. mostly carbon composite stuff.. or film.. etc

Soundguy



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tom_ca

04-04-2007 07:01:27




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 Re: Resistor info in reply to souNdguy, 04-04-2007 06:38:08  
my problem is i live in canada and there is no radio shack here.



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Bob

04-04-2007 07:18:08




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 Re: Resistor info in reply to tom_ca, 04-04-2007 07:01:27  
Do you have the OEM ballast resistor?

If so; give it a try with the 12-Volt coil.

More likely than not; it will work.

If not; check with and industrial electronics supply house for the pair of .5 Ohm 10-Watt resistors.

Where are you located in CA?



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tom_ca

04-04-2007 07:23:41




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 Re: Resistor info in reply to Bob, 04-04-2007 07:18:08  
i live about 1 hr from ottawa just north of perth
the original ceramic resistor is still on the tractor but was bypassed by the previous owner when converted to 12v
tractor is 49 8n



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Bob

04-04-2007 07:31:32




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 Re: Resistor info in reply to tom_ca, 04-04-2007 07:23:41  
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I'm GUESSING your "12-Volt" coil went "bad" and you want to protect your new one with a resistor?

Does the OEM resistor you are seeing look like this?



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tom_ca

04-04-2007 08:20:13




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 Re: Resistor info in reply to Bob, 04-04-2007 07:31:32  
thanks bob



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tom_ca

04-04-2007 07:54:26




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 Re: Resistor info in reply to Bob, 04-04-2007 07:31:32  
that is what i have my wires hooked up to[terminal block] there is also what i think is anther resistor ceramic from the old system.



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tom_ca

04-04-2007 07:37:11




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 Re: Resistor info in reply to Bob, 04-04-2007 07:31:32  
that is what i have my wires hooked up to[terminal block] there is also what i think is anther resistor ceramic from the old system.



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Bob

04-04-2007 08:01:04




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 Re: Resistor info in reply to tom_ca, 04-04-2007 07:37:11  
ASSUMING you have a new "12-Volt" square-can coil use EITHER the OEM resistor OR "DELL'S Trick Resistor".

Not BOTH; and NO other resistors in-line somewhere.



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souNdguy

04-04-2007 07:18:01




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 Re: Resistor info in reply to tom_ca, 04-04-2007 07:01:27  
Maxim electronics can be found on the web.. sky craft.. plenty of other parts houses too.
Mouser.. MCM.. etc.. Radioshack online should be able to mail you stuff.. even up to moose country i would think..


Soundguy



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souNdguy

04-04-2007 04:46:43




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 Re: Resistor info in reply to tom_ca, 04-04-2007 04:36:07  
Sure.. if you don't want any spark.... ever

You need LOW ohms.. that resistor is 1Kohm.. as in i kilo ohm.. or 1000 ohms.


soundguy



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A. Bohemian

04-04-2007 07:58:09




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 More Legalese in reply to souNdguy, 04-04-2007 04:46:43  
Using Ohm's Law,

I=E/R

where I is current, E is voltage (no, I don't know why. Some people use V) and R is resistance in ohms:

In the case of a 12 volt conversion:

I=12/1000 I= .012

Or 12 mA. This is a typical grid current in a vacuum tube amplifier, but not good for a Kettering ignition system.

Extrapolating with the original six volt system, I=.006 A, or 6 mA. Not a whole lot of current by any standard. Using P=IE for power consumption, P=.144 watts at twelve volts and .036 watts at six.

Many Kettering systems on this class of tractor (and many cars and trucks, for that matter) work well dissipating about 25 watts. There is a BIG difference between .036 watts and twenty watts.

So what, you ask? Remember the ammeter on your dashboard? Well, let's assume for the sake of argument that the standard ballast resistor on your dashboard develops a high-resistance fault that gives it a value of 1k ohm (not uncommon in sixty-year-old resistors).

In this case, the meter mught wiggle a little at the instant the switch is thrown, but would in all probablity not show any legible deflection from zero, as the current flow is very tiny and the meter is designed to measure accurately more twenty times as much current.

Simple, neni pravda?

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dan hill

04-04-2007 16:28:08




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 Re: More Legalese in reply to A. Bohemian, 04-04-2007 07:58:09  
Your math is suspect.4 amps is more like it...



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roger '40 9n

04-05-2007 07:33:48




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 Re: More Legalese in reply to dan hill, 04-04-2007 16:28:08  
Actually 25 watts at 6 volts is about 4 amps.
Remember: watts is volts times amps.

Roger in Michigan



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souNdguy

04-04-2007 08:08:50




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 Re: More Legalese in reply to A. Bohemian, 04-04-2007 07:58:09  
I think you probably shoulda posted this to the orginal poster.. not me.. Your preaching to the choir with me.. I did electronics 101 decades ago..

Soundguy



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A. Bohemian

04-04-2007 10:01:52




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 Of course. in reply to souNdguy, 04-04-2007 08:08:50  
Anyone who reads this forum regularly knows you know your stuff, soundguy.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.



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TheOldHokie

04-04-2007 08:08:37




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 Re: More Legalese in reply to A. Bohemian, 04-04-2007 07:58:09  
Because E = electromotive force

TOH



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