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Removing wheel nut

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SCgoatfarmer

04-23-2007 05:15:43




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I have two 8ns. One is a 49 front mount 12 volt converison and the other is a 51 side mount 6 volt.

My 49 front mount 12 volt has two thin nuts and the snap ring like the IT manual exploded diagram for the rear wheel. I was comparing one to the other.

However, my 51 side mount 6 volt only has a one and a half inch nut on one rear wheel and on the other it has the same but also what appears to be a small sliding plate behind it. It will freely turn.

I didnt have a problem with the side with the thick nut. Removed the wheel found a spring unhooked on the drum plate. Hooked back up the spring, cleaned up the brake drum, mounted the wheel back on Applied 400 lbs torque. No more play in the wheel.

I was feeling good after that but you all know how it is with these things you accomplish one thing and then hit a brick wall on another.

Here is the problem. On the other wheel with the thick single nut and undernetah sliding plate, the nut is stripped or the threads on the shaft are stripped so that the nut will turn either way butit will not tighten or come off.

I believe I am goign to have to saw it off and then rethreasd the axle and replace the large nut.

Is this single large nut set-up a different way 8n wheels were mounted instead of the mutliple nuts washers and snap rings?

Did other model 8ns come with a single large nut or is this a make shift replacement?

Is sawing it off the best way to get it off?

Any thoughts or suggestions?

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Dell (WA)

04-23-2007 08:59:40




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 Re: Removing wheel nut in reply to SCgoatfarmer, 04-23-2007 05:15:43  
Goatfarmer..... ...would you believe the 2-part "clamp'em-tight" NUT really holds on even buggered up 1-1/8 axle threads? ($25 cheap) Torque to a gutt-bustin' 450ft/lbs. Don't worry, you can't overtorque.

Sounds like yer current rearaxle nut is some machineshop makey-doo. Do what ever it takes to gitter-off.

The rearaxle threads usually wear from WORN tapered splined hub. ($50, cheap) ..... .Dell

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SCgoatfarmer

04-23-2007 10:18:51




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 Re: Removing wheel nut in reply to Dell (WA), 04-23-2007 08:59:40  
Been a long time Dell... hope your doing well up there in Washington state(?)

I figured it was a make shift part.

Going to have to use a Saws-all I beleiev to get that nut off.

I got the 450 lbs of torque with a two foot heavy duty rachet, a three foot long cheater bar and this 260 lb body.

Appreciate it!



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Dunk

04-23-2007 05:53:32




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 Re: Removing wheel nut in reply to SCgoatfarmer, 04-23-2007 05:15:43  
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Are you sure it isn't one of these?

Axle Clamp Lock Nut - Clamp lock nut, rear axle, 1-1 4". For 8N, NAA, Jubilee. This improved nut helps to prevent premature wear on both axle and hub. (The ring on the original type can fall out or rust out which allows the nut to come loose). This nut stays tight! Replaces CBPN-4179-A and 8N4187. (Part No: LN10-21)

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SCgoatfarmer

04-23-2007 07:16:57




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 Re: Removing wheel nut in reply to Dunk, 04-23-2007 05:53:32  
Definitely not that type.

It is rather large. It is about an inch and a half deep.


Nothing else on the axle except this nut. Except the underneath plate that will spin in either direction. This plate is about a half inch bigger in diameter than the nut.



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Dunk

04-23-2007 07:33:00




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 Re: Removing wheel nut in reply to SCgoatfarmer, 04-23-2007 07:16:57  


So then it is the original nut washer and clip, and from what you are saying it is stripped.



You may be able to replace it with the 2 part cinching one above.



You might be able to drive screw drivers behind it and turn it and get it to catch some good threads?


















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Axle Shaft Nut, Rear - 1.25", 18 hex. For Models: (8N 1948-1953), (NAA 1953-1955), NAB.
(Part No: 8N4179)

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Rear Axle Washer - For model 8N. (price shown is for EACH, minimum Qty is 2. (Enter '2' in QTY box. )
(Part No: 8N4293)

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Axle Ring, Rear - For 8N 1948-1953. Sold in packages of 2, price is for each.
(Part No: 8N4187)







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Scgoatfarmer

04-23-2007 10:22:56




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 Re: Removing wheel nut in reply to Dunk, 04-23-2007 07:33:00  
No, it definitley isnt the original parts.

Looks just like any old nut you might put on any bolt, it is just a very large size with the correct thread size.

I assume it was a work around.

I am going to change both of them out to the proper set-up like you have linked.

Only conceren is that I do have a worn spline that is causing too much play in the hub.

That might be my next post.

Appreciate it!

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Dunk

04-23-2007 10:42:21




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 Re: Removing wheel nut in reply to Scgoatfarmer, 04-23-2007 10:22:56  
I got my 2 new hubs last year for $45 each.

They made a huge difference.



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