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Buying a new Bush Hog

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Ramrod

04-23-2007 08:34:13




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Hi guys, long time no see. It was a big weekend for me and Old Warrior. He came outta the garage this weekend and earned his keep for the first time. I hooked up a really old junk 5" generic bush hog to him and started on the 55 acres I have been cutting regularly for a few years now. I was really pleased with how well he worked. Dan, that problem with the lope at 1500 and 2100 was completely cured by retorqing the head bolts (they all needed 1/2 turn plus) and replacing the rebuilt original carb with a new black cast iron carb from Tisco. I looked at that carb for about a year before I screwed up the courage to install it and face the music if it dodn"t do the job ($250), but it is fixed! OW ran at 1500 all day through tall thick grass and the governor coulda taken the day off. Coming home, he ran up to 2200 and cruised along the road in 4th gear like he was on a road trip, smooth as silk. So anyhow, since he is doing so well, I think it is finally time to invest in his future with a new bush hog, so I will start up, once again, one of our favorite debates, with a few twists.

I"m concerned that some bush hogs may hit the rear tires when I lift it, and I am concerned with that as well as making the front end too light on that high speed run home with it lifted high. Some bush hogs offer "offset" 3pt hitches. My big JD MX6 has a 3pt mounted at an angle leaning forward, is that the fix for hitting the tires? As far as weight, I do have a front bumper, and the famous foam filled front tires to add some significant weight to the front, but I"m thinking about a 6" squealer, and it is not light. The new cutter also needs to be Quick Hitch compatible, as I am completly spoiled with the JD iMatch system, and have bought a QH from Tractor Supply that looks just great on the back of OW, and come to think of it, adds a few inches of offset to the rear 3pt, which may help with the rear tire thing, but the old junker is QH incompatible, so it is currently mounted old school (and hits the rear tires when lifted too high), with anti sway bars and limit chains, all of which will work with the QH system. So help me out with experience and opinions guys.

Long post, sorry, had a lot to say after so long away.

Thanks!

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Dan

04-23-2007 18:48:47




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 Re: Buying a new Bush Hog in reply to Ramrod, 04-23-2007 08:34:13  
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Hey bud - long time, no see! Glad you got Old Warrior running good! (But I STILL prefer the old original carbs) And the head being that loose probably cause serious compression leakage.

As far as the mower - I mowed all weekend with Rustbucket through THICK grass and clover knee high or better - he plowed right through it with no problems. I do not agree that the NAA cannot handle a 6' mower. I would not hesitate to drop a 6' mower behind Rustbucket - even in the tall stuff. As far as the clearance - her is a pic of my hydraulics test I did after the rebuild - this is after over 12 hours and the back wheel was still off the ground (and this is an old HEAVY thick steel shell mower). It dropped about 3" overnight. Anyway, you can see that while the clearance is close to the rear tires, it does not touch. This is a 5' mower (I used it with my 1952 8N) but you get the idea.

Stick around awhile this time!

Dan

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Ramrod

04-23-2007 19:09:40




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 Re: Buying a new Bush Hog in reply to Dan, 04-23-2007 18:48:47  
Yep, good work on that hydraulics! You know how I appreciate that stuff. About that carb, it is a dead ringer for the original, I don't think you could tell the difference. I figure the interior got some rust pitting in it, as the tank was a complete mess when I got it. In any case it runs great. What I wanna do is replace the MX6 on Big John with a MX7 and hook the MX6 to OW. That rascal is 1050 lbs, so I need to hook it up and lift it to see if I can keep the front end down, but the old 5' junker is doing the job now. We make quite a team, What's-Her-Name on Big John and me on Old Warrior cutting in formation, knocking down 11 feet in one pass, but I gotta have more!

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Dan

04-23-2007 19:23:30




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 Re: Buying a new Bush Hog in reply to Ramrod, 04-23-2007 19:09:40  
At 1050 lbs. may have you bending all those nice linkages that you spent so much time getting perfect on your lift cover. The NAA hydraulics are impressive, but I wouldn't want to try to lift that off the ground (unless you like to practice steering by using the brakes) :-)

Kepp us updated.

Dan



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souNdguy

04-23-2007 11:19:28




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 Re: Buying a new Bush Hog in reply to Ramrod, 04-23-2007 08:34:13  
I know a 5' KK will not hit the tires on my 8n.

I've had my 'average' engine condition 8n with a 5' mower behind it cutting tall weeds and thick stuff. had to attack it with 1st gear or 2nd gear but it pulled fine. I imagine a good 134 would handle a 6' in all but extreme conditions. i know other guys with naa and 6XX using 6' mowers. If I were to mow heavy stuff with a 6'.. then perhaps the 172 engine would be needed.. etc. ( also common to see 6' mowers on 3000's )..

Soundguy

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Dean

04-23-2007 09:40:33




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 Re: Buying a new Bush Hog in reply to Ramrod, 04-23-2007 08:34:13  
Ramrod:

A 6' cutter is a lot to ask of an NAA regardless of condition unless you mow relatively light cover on relatively level ground.

I have 3 cutters inculding one 6 footer. I use the 6' mower behind my very good 55 860, my good 64, 4 cylinder 4000 SOS and my good 59 961.

I do mow some very heavy cover at times and sometimes on very steep ground. That said, I have been in conditions where I need the very low first gear on both five speed tractors.

I know that I could't even begin to operate a 6 footer in my conditions with a 134 CI engine.

Aside from that, my 860 has both a heavy front bumper and 100 lbs of weights on each front wheel yet I sometimes carry the front wheels if I lift the mower going up hill. My 6 foot cutter weighs around 750 lbs.

Dean

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Ramrod

04-23-2007 09:15:29




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 Re: Buying a new Bush Hog in reply to Ramrod, 04-23-2007 08:34:13  
Did I neglect to mention, for those of you that are not familiar with the Old Warrior, that he is a completly rebuilt '53 NAA?



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8N'r--WI

04-23-2007 09:12:40




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 Re: Buying a new Bush Hog in reply to Ramrod, 04-23-2007 08:34:13  
Ramrod---my only experience is with a Bush Hog "Razorback" 5' model.

Have no problems with it hitting tires, does a good job, is a bit lighter than the Squeeler, but not heavy enough to want to "lift" the front end on my 51 8N.

The only "change" that I had to make with the mower was to add longer pins. They were too short to be able to use the mower with stabilizer bars on the tractor. Removing the nuts that held the pins was a heck of a job. I believe the "Razorback" is a bit cheaper than the "Squealer".----Tim

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Ramrod

04-23-2007 09:20:24




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 Re: Buying a new Bush Hog in reply to 8N'r--WI, 04-23-2007 09:12:40  
Yep on the pins, I had to change them out on the old junker to make it all fit. My local JD dealer had some adjustable pins that did the trick nicely. I thought about removing the sway bars, and actually hooked it all up without them and then stepped back and watched as my wife pushed the junker back and forth. Didn't take long to remember how much those new rear tires cost and run out to fetch those pins.

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