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Oil Plug for crankcase.

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Notminiacres

04-23-2007 16:18:44




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Going to bother y'all again! Went to change oil in my Jubilee and the plug broke off. Looked up a plug and it isn't quite like mine. I do know someone welded a large nut to mine and that's what gave way! Everything I have seen in catologs and web say a 1939-1964 oil plug will work , is this correct? Hard to beleive. Looks like the plug part that should turn out is about 2 1/2 to three inches in diamenter. Some one must have put a Bull Dozer on it to tighten it! LOL! Do ya think I can put a large pipe wrench on that an screw it out without damaging the pan? Many Many THANKS to all that have been helping me with my new project!

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Mark in Michigan

04-23-2007 16:54:29




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 Re: Oil Plug for crankcase. in reply to Notminiacres, 04-23-2007 16:18:44  
LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!!
I thought I had just lost my touch or something similar.
I have been too embarassed, or something, to just ask the question.



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soundguy

04-23-2007 16:37:11




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 Re: Oil Plug for crankcase. in reply to Notminiacres, 04-23-2007 16:18:44  
Yep.. you can pipe wrench it.. or weld another nut on there.. heck.. you can even take a cold chissle and 'tap it around'.. just be carefull.

Mor ethan likely the prev owner had a bad gasket, so had a gorilla brought in to tighten it. Your new plug will have a new hasket.. grease it or oil it and put it on after cleaning up the old mating surface as appropriate ( scrape with razor blade.. or hit with 400- 800 sand paper if rough / galled.. etc..

Soundguy

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Bruce (VA)

04-23-2007 16:35:37




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 Re: Oil Plug for crankcase. in reply to Notminiacres, 04-23-2007 16:18:44  
Bubba was too lazy or too dumb to figure out that a gasket goes between the plug & the pan. It needs to be replaced every time you change the oil. (Misers like me make their own rather than spend a buck for a new one) So, Bubba changes the oil, doesn't have a gasket, so he just gums it all up w/ Permatex & 100 lbs of torque. "Don't leak now!" Of course, the next time Bubba changes the oil, he can't get the plug out. The Bubba solution? Braze a BF nut on to the drain plug. I have one tractor owned by Bubba, complete with a brazed nut on the oil plug, a water faucet sediment bowl cut off & an in-line lawn mower gas filter. Some of the 'fixes', I must admit, are rather clever.....but, all in all, doing it right the first time is more my style.

Take a grinder & square up the plug & put a pipe wrench on it w/ a 2 or 3 foot cheater bar.

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A. Bohemian

04-23-2007 17:00:58




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 Then, He Leaves the Tractor Parked Outside Every W in reply to Bruce (VA), 04-23-2007 16:35:37  
Quote: "...so he just gums it all up w/ Permatex & 100 lbs of torque."

You forgot to mention that he heats the threads up first with a torch to heat seat the plug...



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soundguy

04-23-2007 16:39:21




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 Re: Oil Plug for crankcase. in reply to Bruce (VA), 04-23-2007 16:35:37  
I see we are kindred spirits. I also make my own gaskets when possible. i think my tractor got a cerial box gasket on all their drain plugs this january when i did all my oil changes.

Soundguy



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Bruce (VA)

04-23-2007 16:47:30




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 Re: Oil Plug for crankcase. in reply to soundguy, 04-23-2007 16:39:21  
Want to get a laugh? Go to the local NAPA, Autozone, whatever.....and ask for gasket paper. Unless the person behind the counter is 40+, you will get "the look". Once you explain what it is, then tell them you want cork as well as paper. One of my earliest repair 'lessons' was my father handing me the gooseneck off of a 54 Ford & telling me to find the gasket paper & make a gasket. Lay the paper on the bench, tap the goose neck w/ a ball peen hammer & then start cutting!

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souNdguy

04-24-2007 05:19:51




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 Re: Oil Plug for crankcase. in reply to Bruce (VA), 04-23-2007 16:47:30  
Same here.. except i learned from an old truck mechanic that lived near us. I'd go watch/get tools for him, and occasionally he'd hand me the ballpeen and a metal cover and let me peen out the gasket.

I'f I'm feeling spendy i get the rolls of gasket paper or crok.. If I'm in a pinch at home, I've founf that most non corrougated cardboard works good.. like cerial box, shoe box, soap powder box.. etc..

Soundguy

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Dunk

04-23-2007 16:54:45




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 Re: Oil Plug for crankcase. in reply to Bruce (VA), 04-23-2007 16:47:30  
Budweiser 12 pack boxes work fine for me to make plug gaskets.



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David Snipes

04-24-2007 10:31:22




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 Re: Oil Plug for crankcase. in reply to Dunk, 04-23-2007 16:54:45  
Be sure to make the gaskets before you drink the 12 pack. I tried it the other way and screwed it all up.



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souNdguy

04-24-2007 05:21:32




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 Re: Oil Plug for crankcase. in reply to Dunk, 04-23-2007 16:54:45  
Hey.. and i bet the can bottoms almost have the right ID.. so the dents on the bottom of the box are almost already there!

Soundguy



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