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JimH

04-23-2007 20:50:44




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Got a nasty shock today when I noticed oily streaks running down the hood from the radiator cap. Removed the cap and found a brown oily goo in the radiator. Does this mean I have a blown head gasket or worse, a cracked block? There is no evidence of coolant mixed with oil on the dipstick. Anybody ever encountered this before?




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roger '40 9n

04-23-2007 22:45:48




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 Re: oil in 8N radiator in reply to JimH, 04-23-2007 20:50:44  
yep "oil" in the coolant is common. Comes from a leaky head gasket leting combustion byproducts into the water. It is not actually motor oil. Remember, it's a flat head engine so no oil passages through the head.

Sounds like you need a new head gasket.

Roger in Michigan



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JimH

04-24-2007 06:27:46




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 Re: oil in 8N radiator in reply to roger '40 9n, 04-23-2007 22:45:48  
Thanks, thats a load off my mind! I was worried there the old girl had finally bought it!



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Bob

04-24-2007 07:30:50




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 Re: oil in 8N radiator in reply to JimH, 04-24-2007 06:27:46  
You might try re-torquing the head.

Watch for signs of water in the OIL.

A little oily sheen at the top of the coolant ain't gonna hurt NOTH'IN, but it doesn't take much water in the OIL to wreck the bearings.

After the tractor has sat unused for more than overnight, loosen the engine oil drain plug a little, and see what first drips out. Any water in the engine oil will settle to the bottom, and drip out first.

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A. Bohemain

04-24-2007 07:43:00




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 Jejdanecky! in reply to Bob, 04-24-2007 07:30:50  
Fix it right away. NO GOOD ever came from running a bad head gasket!!!

Did it overheat at some point? If so, how badly?

Blowing a head gasket is not in and of itself fatal to the flathead Ford engine, be it four or eight; but people in denial CONTINUING to run bad head gaskets just because the engine will still start and run is the main reason one hardly ever sees an old Ford V-8 series with the original flat-head engine in day-to-day use any more.

If you see one of these in traffic it will almost always have the 302 out of a Fairmont or something because the original engine was run with a blown gasket until it overheated and cracked the block. All because the owner thought, "Well, I see oil in the coolant, but it runs ok..."

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Eriklane

05-30-2007 04:59:22




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 Re: Oil in radiator in reply to A. Bohemain, 04-24-2007 07:43:00  
I have a '48 8n, and when I purchaed it there was no noticeable oil in the radiator. Now I see quite a bit. When I drain it however, there's just a layer in the bucket...so without you seeing it, how do you describe what is 'ok'...I want to know, once I replace the head gasket, how to clean out the radiator? I saw a post mentioning dish washer soap...I'd like to flush the radiator at least a bit, to get out the oil, so I can then prove if the gasket was the problem. Also, I can't run straight water in it, correct?

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A. Bohemian

04-24-2007 07:48:53




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 P. S. in reply to A. Bohemain, 04-24-2007 07:43:00  
I almost forgot, what Bob said about the oil is imperative. I wouldn't run this tractor at all until I checked the torque on the head bolts, and replaced the gasket if necessary.

But if you must start it, ALWAYS pull the drain plug and look for signs of water in the oil first. Only takes a second, and can save the bearings.



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A. Bohemian

04-24-2007 07:51:37




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 Erroratum in reply to A. Bohemian, 04-24-2007 07:48:53  
I meant, LOOSEN the drain plug. Sorry.



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