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Terry DeBoer

05-10-2007 19:42:49




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Today I used the 8n for about 1 1/2 hours to pull a hayrack around to pick up sticks. When I shut it off i felt the generator and it was very hot. You could only hold your hand on it for a few seconds. The block is also quite warm along with the head. So i think that it might be overheated but will that cuase even the generator to get hot? If it is due to overheating how tight do you have to have the fan belt? It seemed a little loose but not bad. When it runs the fan turns with generator so its not like its not turning. The coolant is right above the fins on the radiator so it isn't overfull and it does have a thermostat. I think the generator never stops charging becuase the ammeter is always around 25 at full throttle.

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duey

05-10-2007 22:28:19




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 Re: hot 8n in reply to Terry DeBoer, 05-10-2007 19:42:49  
OLD is right. Your car/truck doesn't overheat and no way will you "lay hands on" the alternator OR the engine if you have done any driving.

If you CAN touch it, call that BAD...

My 2 cents... duey



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old

05-10-2007 21:41:21




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 Re: hot 8n in reply to Terry DeBoer, 05-10-2007 19:42:49  
Stop and think about this a little. An engine runs well at 160-200 degrees now have you ever held you hand on something that warm. If you did then you either hand no way to feel pain or your crazy. Any engine will run in that heat range and you can not hold your hand on that for more the a minute if that much. Your genny also sits close to the engine so it will also be good and warm. You can also think about it this way. Your water heater in your house is set around 120 degrees. If you turn on just your hot water can you hold your hand under it long?? I would say you would say NO. So the same thing goes with your engine

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soundguy

05-10-2007 21:06:30




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 Re: hot 8n in reply to Terry DeBoer, 05-10-2007 19:42:49  
I'd check that chargeing system. After a few minutes of high charge.. the ammeter should settle down to a very small positive charge.

possible reason for a continued hi charge is a bad battery.. or a shorted field circuit in the A-circuit regulator..

if ya keep that up.. you WILL be replacing your generator..

soundguy



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A. Bohemian

05-11-2007 10:44:42




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 I Think Soundguy... in reply to soundguy, 05-10-2007 21:06:30  
...is on to something important here. If the generator is ALWAYS charging at a 25 amp rate, something is wrong with the charging system.

I've never let a system charge at max indefinitely, so I don't KNOW what's going to happen, but many years experience with obsolete electrical systems tells me it won't be good.

You don't mention in this post whether you have six or twelve volts. But if you want a little advice...

If you have the stock six-volt system, it does indeed sound like the field is permanently shorted to ground through the voltage regulator. You can probably test this and try to repair it, but I personally would probably just replace it. Not guaranteed to fix the problem, but very likely to.

This is especially true if you jump-started the six volt system with twelve volts across the battery to start it, instead of doing it the safe way. This tends to weld the contacts in the regulator closed so the field is always grounded.

If you have a twelve-volt conversion with internal regulator, take the alternator off and have it tested at the auto parts store. I'll bet the internal regulator (if there is one) is shot.

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Terry Deboer

05-11-2007 16:44:36




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 Re: I Think Soundguy... in reply to A. Bohemian, 05-11-2007 10:44:42  
how would you go about testing to see if the field is shorted to the ground then in the regulator. This is a 6 volt positive ground system. I never did jump start it with a 12 volt system. I did have the cover off of the regulator to take a look at it about a week ago and neither sets of points were welded together. I also know that the wire from the ground stud on the genny is on the ground bolt on the regulator and the wire from the field tab on the regulator goes to the insulated stud on the genny.

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DON TX

05-10-2007 20:44:11




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 Re: hot 8n in reply to Terry DeBoer, 05-10-2007 19:42:49  
I'm not surprised the engine and genny are too hot to touch after 1 1/2 hrs. The ammeter showing 25 all the time would worry me. Might be the meter. Check the battery voltage while running versus not running. Also check the cells for bubbling after a long run time. The radiator fluid level seems right and as long as it isn't overflowing, I wouldn't worry. HTH
DON TX



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Jim - S.E. Michigan

05-10-2007 20:17:18




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 Re: hot 8n in reply to Terry DeBoer, 05-10-2007 19:42:49  
Sounds like to me that the thermostat is not opening to let the water(coolant) circulate.
Either you need a new thermostat or your radiator is plugged up.
Jim



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