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Correction to my Regulator Posts

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Phil (Nj,AZ,Sas

05-17-2007 04:26:19




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I have stated that all the relays in the regulator are "open" (static Condition) that is not true. I know better but wasn't thinking. You never switch resistance "into" a circuit because you would have a period of "nothing" while the points closed.

The Voltage Regulator relay and the Current Regulator Relay are Normally "Closed" (static). The Relay contacts provide a shorting path "across" their respective resistors. This results in the MAX Field Current (static) & smooth Switching.

The Cut-out is normally "OPEN".

IDENT: Current reg is wound with large wire (series) Voltage Reg is wound with small wire. (shunt) Cut-out is wound with both small (shunt) and
large (series) wire.

Hope This Helps,

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souNdguy

05-17-2007 06:20:51




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 Re: Correction to my Regulator Posts in reply to Phil (Nj,AZ,Sask), 05-17-2007 04:26:19  
Yep.. that's why when a battery is toppe doff, and the vr contacts are no longer closing to call for a higher charge.. thent he 'bias' resistor is still inline with the field to provide minimal field current.. etc.

Soundguy



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Bob

05-17-2007 06:47:45




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 Re: Correction to my Regulator Posts in reply to souNdguy, 05-17-2007 06:20:51  
The field resistor shunted across the contacts keeps the generator putting out enough voltage to keep the cutout contacts from bouncing open and shut, open and shut, as the voltage and current regulators do their jobs, and cut the field curretn as the battery voltage comes up to full charge level.



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Phil (NJ,AZ,Sask)

05-17-2007 10:27:41




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 Re: Correction to my Regulator Posts in reply to Bob, 05-17-2007 06:47:45  
[quote]bouncing open and shut, open and shut, as the voltage and current regulators do their jobs [/quote]

Bob, The Field Resistors (2) "ARE" the regulators. they are daisy chained to ground (A Type), the Opening and Closing (viberating), of the Current or Voltage relay's, control the field Current.(Resistance in Gen field or No Resistance)

The Cut-out relay closes "long" before they begin
controlling the Field Current. Its the Series winding on the Cut-out that latches/holds the Cut-Out Relay.

When a Battery is discharged its Resistance is Low and current flows easy .

The Current Regulator (series) is the first relay to begin to Open and Close (viberate).This limits the charging current to 20 amps. The Battery Voltage increases (charging).
Why:
Ohms Law: I X R = V.. If I is held constant an increase in Resistance (as battery charges) MUST result in a increase of Voltage.

The Voltage Regulator (Shunt) begins its regulating operation (opening & closing) when the Voltage across the Battery reaches 7.5 volts. The Current rate is then reduced
Why:
Ohms Law: V/R = I.. If Voltage is held constant an increase in resistance (as Battery charges) MUST result in a decrease in Current.

Thats the way I see it,

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souNdguy

05-17-2007 07:06:28




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 Re: Correction to my Regulator Posts in reply to Bob, 05-17-2007 06:47:45  
bettr'n i said it.

Soundguy



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