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Seat Time - NH Hayliner 68 Baling

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ed S. (IL)

05-19-2007 20:54:47




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Another beautiful day today, and even though I wasn't able to crimp the hay, it was about dry enough to bale, so I pulled my "new" New Holland Hayliner 68 out of the shed and gave it a thorough going-over with the grease gun, and put fresh twine in it. Note that this is a baler I just bought for $50, and is virtually identical to the model 68 I already had - couldn't pass up the deal, and this unit was in much better condition than my other one.

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Now, every time someone asks whether you can bale with an 8N, the responses usually fall into one of two camps - those who say they have baled 10,000+ bales with an N, and those who say "ain't never gonna happen."

Well, here's photo proof you can do it (note that I'm even pulling a hay rack), but I will have to qualify this by stating:

A) I'm on very level ground,

B) I'm running a relatively small baler, and,

C) I had pretty light windrows.

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In a few spots with heavier windrows, it was really working the tractor, and as I do have a slight incline at the north end of the field, I would say I was really pushing it climbing the hill with an almost-full rack.

In other words, it will work, but if you're on anything but very gentle slopes, you're pushing the limits of an 8N. I could have drop-baled the field and probably been just fine, though.

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At any rate, folks will probably continue to disagree, and that's fine - YMMV, as they say.

My boys and I had a blast doing it, and it was also a milestone, as this was the first time I've done the whole job by myself, with my own equipment.

Hope this is helpful to anyone considering using an N to bale hay...

es

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lonestarjeff

05-20-2007 22:23:14




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 Re: Seat Time - NH Hayliner 68 Baling in reply to ed S. (IL), 05-19-2007 20:54:47  
Great pics Ed, thanks for sharing.

Jeff



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Ron-MO

05-20-2007 19:34:21




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 Re: Seat Time - NH Hayliner 68 Baling in reply to ed S. (IL), 05-19-2007 20:54:47  
There you go. My late father and I baled hay with an 8N for many years with one of the hardest balers to pull with an 8N - a McCormick #45. Never pulled a wagon, hooked to the baler like you, but did pull it up some mighty hills. I never said it was easy, but you do what you have to do when that is the biggest tractor you have and money is tight. Dad farmed between 160 and 350 acres over until he passed on and never owned a larger tractor than a 8N and C Farmall (I still have both of them). I now own a 5000 Ford for baling duties, and as long as it runs I will likely not go back, but if the 5000 gives any trouble with a field of hay I have no problem putting either of them on the baler I have now (532 Ford). Gotta say I like the 5000....pulls anything I have put on it and sips the diesel compared to many in the same league. Yes, you can bale with an 8N - just use common sense and dont rush it. Been there done it, and the N is still going strong.

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ed s. (IL)

05-21-2007 04:36:37




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 Re: Seat Time - NH Hayliner 68 Baling in reply to Ron-MO, 05-20-2007 19:34:21  
I like the 5000 a lot - the boy who has been cutting the field for me uses one (diesel with a loader), and it's a stout tractor!

es



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S Russell

05-20-2007 11:27:09




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 Seat Time in reply to ed S. (IL), 05-19-2007 20:54:47  
Thanks for sharing. You need to frame a copy of the photo the"Son and you working together" unposed as it is. It will mean more and more as time goes by.
Regards, S



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ed s. (IL)

05-21-2007 04:34:03




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 Re: Seat Time with sons in reply to S Russell, 05-20-2007 11:27:09  
You're absolutely right... I had both my sons stacking (after the oldest got done taking photos). One of the primary reasons for moving to a farm from the big city (Atlanta) was to give my boys experience with good old-fashioned hard, sweaty work (this choice also provides no end of entertainment for the neighbors who are all 'real' farmers).

We enjoy working together, and I believe they will greatly value the experiences as they get older, too.

es

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old

05-19-2007 21:39:48




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 Re: Seat Time - NH Hayliner 68 Baling in reply to ed S. (IL), 05-19-2007 20:54:47  
Only thing I will say is your pushing it to the max. I know my 841 worked real hard just to pull a JD 14T BTDT and never again. Now days if I bale hay I only use one of my Olivers to do so and I have been baleing hay for 30 years now. Started with the 841 and will never bale with it again. But I do have 30 tractors to play with and I like live PTO



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ed S. (IL)

05-20-2007 06:07:08




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 Re: Seat Time - NH Hayliner 68 Baling in reply to old, 05-19-2007 21:39:48  
Old -

I wouldn't argue the fact . It actually did okay on the level ground (was straining less than when pulling a two-bottom plow, for comparison), but climbing that slight hill with a loaded rack, it was definitely running "at the edge."

es



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ed S. (IL)

05-19-2007 20:57:37




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 Re: Seat Time - NH Hayliner 68 Baling in reply to ed S. (IL), 05-19-2007 20:54:47  
One more bit of info - I kept it in third gear the whole time due to the light windrows. With heavier windrows, I probably would have dropped it to second...

es



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Ross Pugh(NC)

05-20-2007 07:07:54




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 Re: Seat Time - NH Hayliner 68 Baling in reply to ed S. (IL), 05-19-2007 20:57:37  
That is what gears are for, less strain on the engine. Nothin wrong wif slowing down a little and Njoying it more.



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Rexalot

05-19-2007 23:12:05




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 Re: Seat Time - NH Hayliner 68 Baling in reply to ed S. (IL), 05-19-2007 20:57:37  
I've used a Farmall H to cut and bale with using NH equipment. I have both a NH s67 and 68 baler. I also cut with a 469 haybine. I never had any problems other then I felt I needed more RPM's... so I agree you can do it with less than the "recommended" size of tractor/HP combination considering all factors.

I have since moved on to an Oliver 1800, but I do use my 871 Ford every once in awhile and if I feel like putting up with crap in the fuel tank I'll get my brother's Super JetStar 3 out of the barn and use it...

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