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RW_N_in_PA

06-06-2007 18:54:08




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I need to replace the seals in the rear axles of my N and wonder if there is a safe way to remove the calcium-filled wheels. I estimate those rear wheel weigh in at 400-500 lbs which is quite a handful to try to manipulate. I couldn't find any features on the wheels to hook a chain-lift to so I'm puzzled how to remove them.

Any suggestions on how to do this without major problems?

I appreciate any feedback or suggestions!

Ron

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Dell (WA)

06-06-2007 22:31:29




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 Re: Safe Wheel Handling in reply to RW_N_in_PA, 06-06-2007 18:54:08  
Ron..... ..the guys have given you excellent advice about moving yer tires. It ain't hard iff'n yer on concrete and have a good hydraulic floorjack under yer diffy so you can "minutely" adjust the tractor stud height to match yer wheel hole height. And WIGGLE!!!

But FIRST thing to do is LOOSEN yer BIGG-NUTT while tractor is fully on the GROUND. 450ft/lbs izza bigga grunt and you NEED GROUND REACTION to achieve it. You try doing it while tractor is jacked up, and yer gonna pull yer tractor off'n the jackstands. NOT GOOD.

Many recommend loosening ALL-16 brake nutts and drive in figger-eights to loosen the brakestuds grip on yer wheels.

NOW safety BLOCK yer tractor front wheels and yer ready to remove yer reartires and when tires are OFF, safety-block yer tranny-diffy. You can't safety block yer rear trumpets 'cuz you gotta remov'em..... ..simple, eh?..... ...Dell

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Pooh Bear

06-06-2007 21:27:46




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 Re: Safe Wheel Handling in reply to RW_N_in_PA, 06-06-2007 18:54:08  
I know of a way to do it by yourself that is safe. It involves building a support dolley to hold the wheel upright and maneuver it around.

Some time I will draw it up. It will be easy to make.

I need to change the right side seals on my early 8N.

Pooh Bear



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old

06-06-2007 20:58:37




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 Re: Safe Wheel Handling in reply to RW_N_in_PA, 06-06-2007 18:54:08  
I do it all the time. The trick is to keep the tire up right at all times and roll it slow. If it starts to get away form you jump back fast and let it go you can not stop it. Haveing another tractor with a loader is a big plus but if you don't a big tree and a chain hoist or com-a-long works well also. I have been working on them for years and so far been lucky but I also have the training to be faster then most people

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Joe(NYC)

06-06-2007 20:37:58




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 Re: Safe Wheel Handling in reply to RW_N_in_PA, 06-06-2007 18:54:08  
I have never done it myself either. But, what about bleeding all the CaCl out of them and catch it to be put back. That should take a few hundred pounds off each tire. I would imagine that if you rotate the tire so that the valve is at 6 o'clock and by using the hose from a bicycle pump it just might work.



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James Rader

06-06-2007 20:27:21




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 Re: Safe Wheel Handling in reply to RW_N_in_PA, 06-06-2007 18:54:08  
Several years ago I pulled one off using a block and tackle on a very large tree branch, nylon tow strap through the rim. Now I believe I would use my engine hoist, wouldn't get it into a truck that way but to do seals or what ever wouldn't be to bad just to move it out of the way and it would keep me a few feet away from it too.

James



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Dunk

06-06-2007 19:15:45




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 Re: Safe Wheel Handling in reply to RW_N_in_PA, 06-06-2007 18:54:08  
It's not safe at all, it is a little safer ifn you are quick, and not old.

You really need 3 buck boys to handle them.

But I have done it by myself many times.

You have to keep em ballanced, and werk em where ya want em to be.



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DennyF

06-06-2007 20:14:24




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 Re: Safe Wheel Handling in reply to Dunk, 06-06-2007 19:15:45  
Agreed on the quick'n not old part.

20 years ago I had to take one to the tire shop off'n my Jubilee. Rolled it over to my truck and flopped it against the tail gate (straps unhooked, tailgate down over the bumper).

Got it pried up onto the tailgate with an assortment of blocking and my diggin' iron, tied it fast to the head rack and jacked the tailgate up level with the blocks and a 5 ton bottle jack, then pried the wheel/tire forward into the bed with the diggin' iron. Didn't have a functional come-along at the time.

Got 'er to the tire shop and the owner asked how I'd gotten it in the truck, said he figured I'd used the backhoe. Told him I didn't have the backhoe any more, told him I'd loaded it by myself. 'Til the day he died, that old buzzard always said "Here comes the world's worst liar", whenever I showed up at his shop. ;O)

Couldn't pay me to handle a loaded tire that way now, but then I no longer have that old beater Chevy truck with the wood floor, neither. And I also ain't still 40, neither.

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K.LaRue-VA

06-06-2007 19:59:58




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 Re: Safe Wheel Handling in reply to Dunk, 06-06-2007 19:15:45  
Dunk is right, handling filled tires ain't safe, at least not by modern standards. But there are a lot of things about working on old tractors that aint exactly safe. Even un-filled tractor tires can get away from you if you are not paying attention and keeping them as close to vertical as possible.

You might be able to rig a block and tackle to a sling wrapped around the tire and wheel. A nylon tow strap should work if you wrapped it around the tire the right way. But make darn sure whatever overhead support you hook to will support the weight.

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