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How many volts to the coil terminal?

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stryped

07-04-2007 13:59:43




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I have a 2n with the front distributor with the coil mounted on top. I am gettig no spark. The wire on the coil goes back to a white insulator thing behind the dash. I think this is a resistor?

How many volts are supposed to go to the oil? With the key on I measured 2.6. This does not seem like enough is it? I have a 12 volt system. Can I hook a wire directly from the batery to the coil terminal?

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Danny in CO

07-04-2007 15:12:14




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 Re: How many volts to the coil terminal? in reply to stryped, 07-04-2007 13:59:43  
stryped,

The first thing you need to know is what kind of coil you have. With a 12 volt system you can have either a 12 volt coil or a 6 volt coil. With a 12 volt coil, you need about 8-10 volts at the top of the coil with the point closed. With a 6 volt coil you need about 3-3.5 volt with the point closed. You say your coil wire goes back to a resistor on the back of the dash. Is there any other resistors in this line? If not, my guess is that you have a 12 volt coil and 2.8 volts is WAY TOO low. Look for bad/dirty connections or a bad ignition switch.

Post back with more info.

Good luck,
Danny

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Danny in CO

07-04-2007 15:21:20




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 Re: How many volts to the coil terminal? in reply to Danny in CO, 07-04-2007 15:12:14  
stryped,

I just read your post below! Now my guess is that you have a 6 volt coil and no other resistors in line other than the ballast resistor on back of the dash. If that is the case you have burned up the coil. You can replace the coil with a 12 volt coil and just the ballast resistor or you can replace with a 6 volt coil and another resistor in line. A resistor around 2.5 ohms should get the voltage to about 3.5 volts with the point closed.

Danny

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ZANE

07-04-2007 14:54:36




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 Re: How many volts to the coil terminal? in reply to stryped, 07-04-2007 13:59:43  
Don't make the costly mistake of bypassing the ignition resistor/s! You will most assuradely fry the coil and points.

Don't do it!

The voltage you are getting to the coil with the points closed is just about right. I would think three volts would be better but not at the expense of frying something.

I would consider replacing the plugs or cleaning then with a plug cleaner/sand blaster if you are getting any spart at all at the wires.

Zane

Try pulling the tractor off to start it or try starting fluid to see if it is in fact ignition problem or fuel problem. If it will start on starting fluid it is not ignition problem but fuel problem.

Zane

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stryped

07-05-2007 05:40:17




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 Re: How many volts to the coil terminal? in reply to ZANE, 07-04-2007 14:54:36  
It wont start with starting fluid. The coil on it says "made in Tawian" so i assume it is aftermarket. How do I tell if it is a 6 or 12 volt coil?



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old

07-04-2007 14:10:13




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 Re: How many volts to the coil terminal? in reply to stryped, 07-04-2007 13:59:43  
With the points open you should read battery voltage and with the points closed you will probably get about what you are getting, maybe even less



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OH Boy

07-04-2007 14:09:54




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 Re: How many volts to the coil terminal? in reply to stryped, 07-04-2007 13:59:43  
No the voltage there is not as high as it should be to run the ignition system.

I am betting on it being your ignition switch that is bad, like one of the replies to your earlier post suggested.

Take a voltage reading on both sides of the switch and see if its the same. If the reading after the switch is lower you have found the problem.

These switches go bad and typically they will have enough continuity to start the engine when cold but after you run the tractor for a few minutes the switch heats up and loses its continuity, causing voltage to drop to the ignition system and voila your engine won't run until the switch cools down again.

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A. Bohemian

07-04-2007 14:18:06




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 A Friendly Suggestion in reply to OH Boy, 07-04-2007 14:09:54  
Stryped, you said below that when you wired in a new ignition switch the ammeter suddenly stopped working.

Figure out what you did wrong at that time and fix it. Otherwise, there's no way to tell if the voltage readings you are seeing are meaningful (although, as old says, 2.6 volts on the high end of the coil with the points closed sounds about right).



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Phil (NJ.Az,Sask)

07-04-2007 16:27:48




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 Re: A Friendly Suggestion in reply to A. Bohemian, 07-04-2007 14:18:06  
[quote]Figure out what you did wrong at that time and fix it. Otherwise, there's no way to tell if the voltage readings you are seeing are meaningful (although, as old says, 2.6 volts on the high end of the coil with the points closed sounds about right).[/quote]

I agree, fixing the ammeter provides current that makes the voltage reading's meaningful. Otherwise you need to measure the OHMS of each component, or VD of a know device like OEM Ballast

I think the OEM Ballast MUST also be in the circuit "or" he would likely have more than ~ 3.0 volt with a 6 volt coil. (The OEM Ballast is not White) OEM ballast + 2.0 ohms works

I do not see a reading with points OPEN, that may mean he has a short in the Distributor

JMHO

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stryped

07-05-2007 05:43:51




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 Re: A Friendly Suggestion in reply to Phil (NJ.Az,Sask), 07-04-2007 16:27:48  
2.6 volts is about right with a 6 volt or a 12 volt coil?

How do I tell if the points are "open or closed" as you say?



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Bruce (VA)

07-04-2007 14:24:26




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 Re: A Friendly Suggestion in reply to A. Bohemian, 07-04-2007 14:18:06  
As I recall.....and I do have bouts of CRS....he should have battery voltage w/ the points open & 1/2 of battery voltage w/ the points closed. If I had a 12v N, I'd check to confirm my memory, but I don't.



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