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russ b

07-11-2007 11:52:30




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I have been thinking. Most of the problems with the gear oil seems to be from moisture. Why not center drill through length wise and tap, one of the bolt that holds the lift cover. Then, run a line to a similar taped hole in the intake manifold. Probably be good to make up a filtered vent, maybe on the filler cap next to the shifter. As is, there doesn't seem to be any kind of ventilation in the whole setup. All opinions welcome.

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Ross Pugh(NC)

07-12-2007 06:47:58




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 Re: Tranny Vent in reply to russ b, 07-11-2007 11:52:30  
Most of the transmission moisture problems come from tractors sitting outside in the weather and rainwater leaking thru at the shift boot that is worn out. If a tractor is going to be left outside, a 5-gallon bucket turned upside down on the gear shifter would be the easiest fix for this problem.



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Sundance Kid

07-11-2007 15:51:17




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 Re: Tranny Vent in reply to russ b, 07-11-2007 11:52:30  
You just keep thinkin', Butch! That's what yer good at....



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LeeMo

07-11-2007 14:21:35




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 Re: Tranny Vent in reply to russ b, 07-11-2007 11:52:30  
I think if you keep a good boot on the shift lever that'll take care of 99.9% of moisture in the gear oil problems.



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Jerry/MT

07-11-2007 12:41:06




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 Re: Tranny Vent in reply to russ b, 07-11-2007 11:52:30  
Sounds like a PVC system for the tranny case.I don't understnd how a vent will fix a problem that's due to condensation(the water being heavier than oil sinks to the bottom of the oil pool or is held in suspension in the oil by additives) unless you plan on running the engine all the time. Besides, at idle, when the intake vaccum is about 28 - 29in Hg, you'll be having a hard time keeping the seals from sucking in. Most old tractors are vented through the dip stick and if you work them regularly, the oil gets warm and the water evaporates. It's the ones that sit for long periods of time unused that have the problem.

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russ b

07-11-2007 22:50:55




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 Re: Tranny Vent in reply to Jerry/MT, 07-11-2007 12:41:06  
Jerry,

Since you are the only serious response, I will try to answer some of your comments.

Sounds like a PVC system for the tranny case.I don't understnd how a vent will fix a problem that's due to condensation(the water being heavier than oil sinks to the bottom of the oil pool or is held in suspension in the oil by additives) unless you plan on running the engine all the time. Besides, at idle, when the intake vaccum is about 28 - 29in Hg, you'll be having a hard time keeping the seals from sucking in.

The filtered inlet in the filler cap would have more flow capacity than a smalll ID vac line over a distance.

Still, you raise a good point. The vacuum line would have to be small diameter, for engine considerations also.

When the tranny is running is when the moisture turns to vapor. It takes a while for the Cast Iron cases to heat up. As is, I think the moisture condenses on the colder Iron.

Most old tractors are vented through the dip stick and if you work them regularly, the oil gets warm and the water evaporates. It's the ones that sit for long periods of time unused that have the problem.

That is how it works for the engine. The advantages in the engine are: more heat and changing crankcase volume due to piston movement. (though a 4 cyl is semi balanced in that regard) The changing crankcase volume is the reason for the filtered breather cap.

Since the volume in the tranny, diffy, lifty is more static there isn't much breathing going on. As such no filtered vent was provided on these tractors.

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Indiana Jones

07-11-2007 12:03:09




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 Re: Tranny Vent in reply to russ b, 07-11-2007 11:52:30  
Have you ever seen a tranny vent? Worse than a woman goin' off


Thanks Russ for my first chuckle of the day.



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ron,ar

07-11-2007 20:20:30




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 Re: Tranny Vent in reply to Indiana Jones, 07-11-2007 12:03:09  
I had to think on that one, very funny after I figured it out :^)



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JMOR

08-11-2007 08:04:37




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 Re: Tranny Vent (probably not much chance you see this, but. in reply to ron,ar, 07-11-2007 20:20:30  
I followed all the posts on carb vents back about 10-xx-06, but never found out whether or not you solved the acceleration/load problem & if so, what was the culprit?
Thanks.



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