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redtailwis

07-30-2007 18:22:56




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Hey quick question about hay.Abotu how many smal square bales of hay fit into one large round bale?
I have an unscrupulous farmer who I think is tryign to rip us off.

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dlplost

07-31-2007 09:42:26




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 Re: hay question in reply to redtailwis, 07-30-2007 18:22:56  
Back in the early '70's I was working for a local farmer that was selling hay to a place in NJ. Lightest bales I ever saw, you could throw them a half mile, about 45# each. they were paying by the bale. He packed 5 tractor trailers full, made a mint. Bales didn't hold together very good, so he kept an extra bailer next to the loading area to rebale the ones that broke.

You really need to go by weight!!

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souNdguy

07-31-2007 06:21:59




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 Re: hay question in reply to redtailwis, 07-30-2007 18:22:56  
As the others are telling you.. it all will depend on weight and efficiency.

On the squares.. there is very little loss.. as you can flake them and feed them in stalls or in a V-feeder.. the hay usually stays dry and of fthe ground. However.. squares are more expensive.

The rounds usually will have some outter covering loss from weathering.

here are some typical numbers from down here in florida from last season

Coastal Hay

5$ square.. about 55# 50$ round.. about 750+ # ( all dry and shedded )

This year it went crazy... squares went to 6$-6.5$ per.. and hay was of lower quality

Rounds jumped to between 68-80$... weight varies on moisture and content.. anywhere from 700-900#

Ya want accuracy.. go by weight.. generally you get a better deal, including allowing for loss, from round bales... Assuming you can handle the rounds..

Soundguy

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HanksterV

07-30-2007 19:06:17




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 Re: hay question in reply to redtailwis, 07-30-2007 18:22:56  
On this subject, we just picked up 500+ Square bales from the field next door. I can honestly say, hay will vary in weight in the same field, same baler settings, depending on type of grass in a particular area!!! Most all felt the same, but there were a few of em that were WAY heavier than the rest!!!! Some types of grass/hay is just denser than others.....



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Dell (WA)

07-30-2007 18:55:16




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 Re: hay question in reply to redtailwis, 07-30-2007 18:22:56  
redtail..... ..except at the feedstore, hay is sold by WEIGHT, not volume. Why? 'cuz you can really "pack" a bale or not. Since roundbales can be ennywhere from 500 to 2000lbs and squarebales can range between 50 to 120lbs, trying to compute volume differences between the two don't work.

Iff'n yer buying the roundbales, have the hay trailer weighed by "licensed" weigh station. Look in yellow pages.

Wannna see a "custom bailer" squirm??? carry an old fashoned hanging spring scale (not bathroom scale) out and weigh a couple of squarebales, they will PROTEST, you will "insist" 'cuz yer buying. Even iff'n yer buying "by the bale", weigh a couple of them, this will be important when it comes time to compute yer feed rations for winter..... ..Dell

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HanksterV

07-30-2007 18:49:36




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 Re: hay question in reply to redtailwis, 07-30-2007 18:22:56  
Thats a loaded question!!! How many lbs are the round bales??? How many lbs are the square bales you are comparing to??? They ALL can differ.....square bales usually run from 45 up to 70 lbs..but CAN be more or less. Round bales?? They typically run anywhere from 700 on the low side, up to 1500 lb monsters!!!! Depends upon how the baler is set-up, and the equipment farmer has as to how big a bale HE can, or wants to handle!! Sorry, but no "clear cut" answer for that question.....

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Tom N MS

07-30-2007 18:48:18




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 Re: hay question in reply to redtailwis, 07-30-2007 18:22:56  
Number of Square Bales Size of Round Bale 40 pound bale 50 pound bale 60 pound bale 4' Diameter

(600 pounds) 15 12 10 5' Diameter

(1000 pounds) 25 20 16-2/3 6' Diameter

(1400 pounds) 35 28 23-1/3

Check this out.
http://www.umext.maine.edu/piscataquis/farming/vol2Iss7.5/bales.htm



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