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OT, deal animal?

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OldTexan

08-07-2007 07:45:22




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Going to give you fair warning, don’t read this just after a meal!!!


Ok, first some background, we live in the country, surrounded by apx. 15 other places and we all have at the very least ½ acre of yard; we have just over an acre. A chain link fence surrounds our place. We don’t really have stray dogs in the area and with my fence they cannot get into my yard.

So this morning I let our cats out just after sunrise and got some coffee. After a bit went out to get them in cause it is heating up and we need them in during the heat of the day.

On the edge of our slightly raised back deck with in 6 feet of the backdoor, lay the entrails of some animal! From the condition of the stuff, it had not passed through another animal, it appeared to be regurgitated or like you had cleaned an animal.. I grabbed the water hose and washed it off onto the flowerbed. In doing so I could clearly see that this appeared to be the entire digestive track of something. Still a nice healthy pink color, not digested or very old!! Looked to be about the size of a cottontail rabbit or cat. Not chewed up either. And no fur to help with ID.

What in the wide wide world of the wild is going on around here?? We came up with a few possibilities, dog attack, but nope, no dogs in our yard, same with coyotes, although we do have them in the area but can they get over my fence? Then I thought owl or hawk, which we do have in the area. I thought a large snake,, naw, it would have fur or skin on it. So, at this point I am at a loss as to what got ole peter cottontail, if that is in fact who it was. We do have a family of bunnies that frequent our yard; they enjoy the garden, which is fine with us.

Anyway, now that I have ruined your breakfast, back to what ever.

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Jerry/MT

08-07-2007 13:11:57




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 Re: OT, deal animal? in reply to OldTexan, 08-07-2007 07:45:22  
Got any raccoons in your neck of the woods? They can be pretty vicious.



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souNdguy

08-07-2007 11:09:10




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 Re: OT, deal animal? in reply to OldTexan, 08-07-2007 07:45:22  
My vote is also a bird of prey.

While mowing my pastures a hawk? will take advantage of small running furry animals. And will carry them to a fencepost to pull apart.

Soundguy



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Dean

08-07-2007 09:32:56




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 Re: OT, deal animal? in reply to OldTexan, 08-07-2007 07:45:22  
Tex:

Did you find all of your cats? If not, I suspect an owl.

Not too many things will eat a cat but owls will.

Dean



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cargocult

08-07-2007 10:10:05




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 Re: OT, deal animal? in reply to Dean, 08-07-2007 09:32:56  
.....Owls will"

There are many things that will kill & eat cats! Owls, & Bald Eagles, Dogs, Coyotes, & of course Lions,Tigers & Bears, hehehe. I have personally seen Bald Eagles carrying cats away, presumably to their nests, where they feed them to their young eaglets. Got quite a infestation of eagles here now! Sorta looks like a AD for the US MAIL, hehehe! They look so neat cruising about..glad they are staging a comeback, despite their cat-eating propensities!! & It seems like they only eat the ones thay can see, the Bolder Patterns have a larger attrition rate than the more well-camoflauged ones!! CC

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JerryS

08-07-2007 09:25:08




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 Re: OT, deal animal? in reply to OldTexan, 08-07-2007 07:45:22  
OldTexan: (I'm an old Louisianaian--howdy, neighbor).

Sure that was startling to find critter guts on your back step. Imagine learning that the guts are those of your own dog.

I live way out in the country too, and a couple of years ago we came home after church and noticed that our dogs didn't greet us at the fence. Then we noticed chairs and flower pots turned over on our back porch, and streaks of blood. The little square of carpet that had served as a swinging door to my double-wide doghouse had been ripped off.

I walked out into the yard and found my little Corgi lying dead, inviscerated, guts scattered around her. The most bizarre wound was a neat round hole bitten through her ribcage about the size of a half-dollar. It looked almost like someone had used a hole saw like you'd use for a doorknob. Didn't know any kind of predator's teeth worked that way. (Alien???)

My big dog (mix) didn't show up until late that night, hardly able to walk. He was chewed up unmercifully ($750 worth). He had been persuaded by his tormentors to jump a four-foot fence he didn't know that he could jump.

I think his attackers were wild dogs who jumped down into the yard from a side porch. We have many many coyotes, but I don't think they were the culprits.

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cj3b_jeep

08-07-2007 08:31:06




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 Re: OT, deal animal? in reply to OldTexan, 08-07-2007 07:45:22  
I'd think some kind of bird of prey, I've seen hawks and eagles just rip a smal game animal to bits, leaving only the innards. Is there any fur at all? or a head?



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OldTexan

08-07-2007 12:42:10




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 Re: OT, deal animal? in reply to cj3b_jeep, 08-07-2007 08:31:06  
Yea,at this point, I am betting on a hawk or owl my self.

I even had the horrrible thought of one of the bad news neighbor kids. :-( Ted Bundy started that way, killing small animals.. :-(



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don t-9n180179

08-07-2007 08:28:13




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 Re: OT, deal animal? in reply to OldTexan, 08-07-2007 07:45:22  
In my city life, I have seen a male basset hound climb a 6' chain link fence to get after my female black lab. He walked up just like a ladder and jumped off the top. If I hadn't seen it, I wouldn't have believed it.



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Erik B

08-07-2007 08:27:15




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 Re: OT, deal animal? in reply to OldTexan, 08-07-2007 07:45:22  
Or worse yet, it could be a huge tapeworm that the cats coughed up. Our cousin's cat once did this...it was huge and gross.



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Joe in MI

08-07-2007 08:06:23




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 Re: OT, dead animal? in reply to OldTexan, 08-07-2007 07:45:22  
I would suspect an owl. My dog wanted out one winter night, and when I let her out she barked and took off around our house (not typical of her). I went in, got a flashlight and some shoes, and went out to see what she was after. I found her with a dead rabbit under the bird feeder. I yelled at her because she knows better than kill to furry woodland creatures (she usually doesn't) and sent her in the house. When I went out in the morning with a shovel to take care of it, it was gone. The innards were there, and a little fur, but no bunny. Other than my tracks and the dog's, there were no tracks in the snow. I could see where the owl came back and dragged the bunny a ways before gutting it and taking off with the carcas.

I felt kinda bad for punishing the dog, after that. I figure she heard the owl get the bunny and that's why she wanted out in the first place.

Same thing happened again this winter under the same feeder, also at night.

Joe

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Colin King

08-07-2007 07:59:28




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 Re: OT, deal animal? in reply to OldTexan, 08-07-2007 07:45:22  
a house cat will often leave behind some of the internal organs, such as the liver/gall bladder and portions of the intestines. Bringing down a cottontail is not that hard to do for a cat that"s a good hunter, but they"ll usually take a couple of days to finish it, and they"ll be as round as a Zepplin.

What about a mole or pocket gopher? They"re also big enough that a cat won"t eat some of the less choice internal organs.

Colin, MN

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