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Rayintomball

08-20-2007 08:31:16




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Well I know this is OT but all the help in the past from this forum has been spot on. I have chainsaws now but the homeowner grade craftsman,poulan,McCullough and what to upgrade. Im looking at the Stihl MS290 an MS310 with 20 inch bar. I'll be using it to cut firewood this fall and to cut the large trees off my fences that fall on them from time to time. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Ray

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jb9959

08-21-2007 06:55:53




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
I have a 16-inch Mc Cullough, Eager Beaver, that I have used for the past 20-years. Never had a problem other than blade sharpening and changing out spark plugs. (2~3 of each)

It is light, easy to handle and starts right up even after sitting for months at a time without use.

jb9959



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Bob Jones

08-21-2007 04:09:12




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
I used a Homelite superXL for years but the vibration made my hands and arms hurt when I got in my forties. Bought a Sthil 029 about 5 years ago and have no complaints and no pain in extremeties anymore.



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gahorN

08-21-2007 00:13:58




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
Guess who is credited with the first patent for a chain saw?

Andreas Stihl patented and developed a chainsaw in 1926 and a gasoline-powered chainsaw in 1929, and founded a company to mass-produce them.
Small wonder that Stihl is a respected make.



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rodgernbama

08-20-2007 18:22:17




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
I have a husqvarna that has been a good saw.



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Bob Harvey

08-20-2007 18:15:23




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
Stihl...home town product....not my home town, but good stuff.



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Grove

08-20-2007 15:58:27




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
I have two Stihl chainsaws, MS-361 and a MS-230 and I'm pleased with both.



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Ken in Arkansas

08-20-2007 14:36:05




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
I have had my Husqvarna 51 since the 1990's and have been pleased with the power and performance. Stihl and Jonsered also make good saws. It's worthwhile to spend a little extra and get a professional quality saw. I'd also consider the dealers - it's good to have a dealer who stocks parts or can work on your saw if needed.



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Mr Bob

08-20-2007 14:29:32




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
I used to work for a tree service, thay used Stihls. They are a good saw. I've been cutting large amounts of firewood for 25+ years, mostly with Poulans. I'm currently using a Poulan 330, 22" bar for big stuff, and a little Poulan "Wild Thing" for lighter stuff. I don't see where they are inferior to the Stihls; but are no better. I've found that Poulans perform , start, and idle better with Autolite plugs than with the Champion plugs that came in them. The little Poulan "Wild Thing" is one heck of a performer for it's size. With any saw, it's important to keep up on their maintenence and have the chain sharp, and always make sure the bar is oiling well during operation. My "Wild Thing" surprised me the other day with how well and quickly it went thru a 20" section of red oak. The only reason I even tried this was because the 330 was out of reach.

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Jason Simmerman

08-20-2007 23:12:33




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Mr Bob, 08-20-2007 14:29:32  
You're right about the Wild Thing saw. I have one myself and man it is a handy little saw. For what I paid for it $125 as a Home Depot floor demo I can't complain too much.



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Mr Bob

08-21-2007 17:57:27




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Jason Simmerman, 08-20-2007 23:12:33  
I bought mine at a yardsale 4 25 bucks.. It was in almost new condition. I got an extra chain with it.



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David Masury

08-20-2007 13:57:37




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
I have had the same stihl for thirty years.... I have replaced the chain and bars a bunch of times, but the saw starts and runs great.... get the biggest you can afford reasonably. You just don't work them as hard.
Keep the fuel fresh and the bar oil full.

DHM



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rd99

08-20-2007 12:01:12




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
I can second the vibration dampening features as being very nice to have.

Your hands don't feel numb after using the saw.



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Paul in MN

08-20-2007 11:50:30




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
Both Stihl and Husky make good saws, but both make lower price "competitive" saws that can be sold at a price point. I'm not sure about current pricing, but for a mid size saw in the 50 to 60 cc engine size, I'd expect to be in the $400 to $500 price range for the pro quality, and in the $300 to $400 range for the mid quality, and whatever the cost of the "homeowner quality"...you don't want it. The better saws have good vibration dampening, making it easier on your hands, wrists, elbows and shoulders. They also have better safety systems for stopping the chain suddenly. And of course the engine is built for a much longer life. Any saw can be fitted with a longer bar and chain, so it looks like a competitor, but the cheap ones will make a lot of noise, vibration, smoke, and not much sawdust. For what you have described, I'd choose one with a 3/8" chain, and not something smaller as they wear out too quickly.

I know a lot of good people who prefer the Stihl brand, but having used chainsaws for nearly 50 years, I really prefer a pro quality Husky. For me, it seems better balanced and provides less vibration to arthritic joints. My 266 model was factory fitted with an 18" bar and chain. I replaced that with a 16" bar and chain, making the saw more maneuverable in tight places, and easier on the arms and shoulders. It is now a 27 year old saw, but it will keep up or beat my son's 5 yr old model 365. I have been heating our house with wood since 1977 (6 to 7 full cords/year).

I recently asked my saw dealer (who sells both Husky and Stihl) which is the better brand. He said it depends on the particular model, they both have very good ones, and they both have poorer quality "homeowner models". So check their websites and find out what the better models are, and then do your comparison purchasing.

Best Wishes

Paul in MN

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rd99

08-20-2007 11:42:47




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
I've got a Husqvarna 455 rancher with a 24" bar. Works great.

Some of the older folk that I've let borrow it like it because it's fast, but the weight is a little too heavy for them.

Once I'm older I'll probably change over to a lighter weight one.

I grew up with saws using a bow bar on them, though I think they are only found in the southeast and not that much anymore, people are afraid of them.

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Eriklane

08-20-2007 11:26:52




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
Dad here-first thing is safety. Remember also that the loud exhaust is hard on ears, so get earmuffs, preferrably ones that knock down 30db or so. I wear safety glasses, heavy boots, chaps, and gloves. If you are going to be cutting a lot, please get chaps. I know a friend that had an 'accident' and sliced his calf up, messed up for life, and it happened in a split second. I have 4 main saws, a Jonsereds 920, a Husky 394, an old Homelite 110 super, and a Stihl 028 wood boss. The lighter Stihl is a godsend for trimming work, and it doesn't tire you out. The Jonsereds simply never fails to run, it virtually has no repairs in 10 yrs...the Husky is a monster, 33" bar, and will kill you if you don't watch out. The homeline is very old and heavy, but I use it for huge lumber. I have a friend that only buys Poulan's from Lowes, at $150 and swears they run as good as anything, and allow for cutting big lumber. Any saw will work, in my mind, as I prove here. Swedish saws have always been good...Just learn how to sharpen them and how to dress the bar. And remember, if it's not chipping, but dusting, stop and sharpen. Don't push. Work saws that get pushed, cause heat and that warps bars. A sharp saw is a wicked tool, anything less isn't worth using. I have a electric sharpener. Get one. It's worth the $100 if you cut a lot.

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HairBall

08-20-2007 11:14:17




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
I know several folks in the tree business & they favor husky"s. I live in the forest on top of a mountain located in the Finger Lakes region, NY. I have a variety of saws, but when the going gets tough, I grab the Husky. You may find that the saws you are currently using will work fine with the right type chain. I prefer a full chisel cut chain and if your saw is low profile a semi-chisel cut is available and works great also. Any chainsaw shop can make you up these loops of chain. ($1.00/inch)As far as size goes, too much bar can get in the way, consider 18"-20" and works both side of the log if you have to,how much log can you lift anyway? Good Luck...

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Ramrod

08-20-2007 11:11:18




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Ken Crisman, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  

Rayintomball said: (quoted from post at 10:31:16 08/20/07) Well I know this is OT but all the help in the past from this forum has been spot on. I have chainsaws now but the homeowner grade craftsman,poulan,McCullough and what to upgrade. Im looking at the Stihl MS290 an MS310 with 20 inch bar. I'll be using it to cut firewood this fall and to cut the large trees off my fences that fall on them from time to time. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Ray


Can't go wrong with a Stihl.
Ramrod

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C.bailey

08-20-2007 18:24:33




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Ramrod, 08-20-2007 11:11:18  
My bread and butter saw in a 360pro series stihl, yes it was expesive, but I will hand it down to my son "Stihl" If that won't tell you somthing nothin will. You buy a stihl for life. And they hold the absolute best resale value. Check it out on e-bay. The saws you mentioned would be fine, but the ms390 was a replacement for the legendary 038. At not much more cost. My motto "A man can't have one too big". lol lol

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john hunt

08-20-2007 10:00:14




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
it what you like, what you handle i like stihl profess type saw.. buy a blade so you don't have bend over so much i use from 30 to 36 inch.. have saw shop measure you for that



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Colin King

08-20-2007 09:28:29




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
For what you"re planning on doing, I"d suggest buying a used pro-grade saw. No point in paying a premium for new equipment when you can get a good pro saw that will suit you just fine for the work you describe. A good saw shop should have equipment ... or depending on the part of the country you live in, talk to a custom logger/sawyer who might be upgrading his equipment.

You really can"t go wrong with either Stihl or Husqvarna. I"ve owned the Stihl 028 and 038 series and currently own a Husqvarna Rancher 50. The Husqvarna is a much better balanced saw, which makes it safer and a lot less strain on your back (in the forestry community, they are known for this).

Colin, MN

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Paul Farley

08-20-2007 09:08:33




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
Hi Ray,
I have 2 Stihl Chainsaws an 021 and an 035 bucking saw.
They, (Stihl) in my opinion are the best saws made, with ECHO #2. I've had these saws for 15 years and I use only wood for heat (5 cords per year) and have 10 acres of Doug fir second growth. I use these saws alot.
The price up front is high, but in this case you get what you pay for.
All the professional loggers here in NW washington use Sthil saws, these guys use these saws every day...must count for something.
Hope this helps.
Paulf

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ED-IL

08-20-2007 09:07:34




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
I also own a stihl and have never had a problem with it. Well....one problem. It does go through a lot of tree and sometimes I get a little ambitios and end up pinching the bar in a particularly large trunk.



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J-M-D

08-20-2007 09:06:32




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
A lot of the pros will tell you that the 290/310 is the worst saw Stihl makes, but they are also the most common so it seems that the general population buys and likes them. If you have a few extra bucks look at the 260.



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Mike OH

08-20-2007 09:05:27




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 Re: OT chainsaw question in reply to Rayintomball, 08-20-2007 08:31:16  
I don't know about the particular models you are mentioning, but I own a Stilh with a 16" bar and it has cut everything I have tried to cut with it including two willows with 36" diameter trunks. It took a while, but did a good job. Only thing I would recommend is to get one that is not too heavy as even the light ones get heavy after a few hours of use. You won't go wrong with the Stihl.



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