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Brush hog/mower for my 8N?

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Britcheflee

08-20-2007 15:48:26




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I am going to start looking for a pull behind mower for the 8N - we have mainly open land with some pretty good sized bramble bushes and one area which I want to clear which has small brush and saplings. It will be mostly grass and good ole star thistle.

What type of mower/brush clearer or whatever it is called should I be looking for suitable for the 8N - I dont need anything huge and I dont want something too heavy for the 8N or for me to hook up etc. I am looking for used as well.

Lee

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Jerry in VA

08-22-2007 09:24:31




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-20-2007 15:48:26  
OK guys, what is an ORC?

BTW, I pull a 5 ft finish mower. Four wheels, so the weight is on the mower wheels.



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JoePilot

08-21-2007 15:35:53




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-20-2007 15:48:26  
I use a 5 foot King Kutter and it works just fine. Don't go smaller than 5 foot, though, as you want to cut at least the width of your rear tires.

And get an ORC!

Joe



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Ramrod

08-21-2007 09:09:43




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to Dean, 08-20-2007 15:48:26  
The other issues to consider on your 8N application are weight and speed. You should get a light weight 5' bush hog. Look at the implement weight, go light or you may not be able to lift it, and if you do lift it, the front end may come up or get very light and not steer correctly. You will also be going pretty fast for bush hogging if you don't have a Sherman, so be careful and be sure to install a ORC on the PTO shaft.

I just went through this. My NAA (Old Warrior) has a new 6' Squealer and it handles it well, BUT it also has a Sherman Hi-Lo. To use it in tall grass (I'm talking 8' here) I have to put the Sherman in Lo and go full throttle, which will result in the correct PTO speed, giving full power to the bush hog. This set up works real well, since it results in full power to the implement and the tractor still goes slow, about 4mph. The 6' Squealer is heavy, so I had to add weight to the front to be able to lift and transport it to and from the field. My foam filled front tires go 130 lbs each, plus I added eight 40 lb suitcase weights to the front bumper so OW could handle it safely.

Ramrod

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Daryl Lynch

08-22-2007 14:34:21




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to Ramrod, 08-21-2007 09:09:43  
Just reading the data here.... I have an 8N with a Mohawk 5' PTO mower. You have what I wish mine would do. I am going too fast (at half throttle) for the mower to keep up. If I run wide open as I would prefer, then the mower just doesn't cut at all in heavier brush. I believe the gear ratio is improper on the mower for the PTO on the 8N to run. Would there be a way to change the gear ratio in the gearbox to run it faster to run with the tractor speed? (It's not a "Sherman").

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gahorN

08-21-2007 07:30:20




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-20-2007 15:48:26  
Sorry, ... it's a TW 72 like this one:

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Sales pitch:RHINO Mower TW60/72

The TW60/72 are versatile rotary cutters that are at home mowing grass, shredding stalks and cutting brush up to 2" in diameter. The TW60/72 from Servis-Rhino are medium duty rotary cutters 60" and 72" wide.At the heart of the TW60 & TW72 is a 90 HP gearbox that features a 1-3/8", 20-spline input shaft and a 2" output shaft. The gearbox and Cat. 4 driveline are protected from sudden shock by an adjustable slip-clutch. The 10 gauge top deck has a rolled edge for improved appearance and added strength with 1/4" thick side skirts. The standard pan blade carrier and updraft blades provide a smooth, even cut.

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Colin King

08-21-2007 08:04:15




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to gahorN, 08-21-2007 07:30:20  
gahorN,

I was looking at the King Kutter site the other day, and was a little confused by the gearbox HP ratings. When they say 40HP gearbox, what does that indicate in relation to the tractor's HP?

I'm going to splurge and by myself a mower in the spring. It'll handy for the orchard and the pasture.

Colin, MN



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gahorN

08-22-2007 09:40:36




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to Colin King, 08-21-2007 08:04:15  

Colin King said: (quoted from post at 08:04:15 08/21/07) gahorN,

I was looking at the King Kutter site the other day, and was a little confused by the gearbox HP ratings. When they say 40HP gearbox, what does that indicate in relation to the tractor's HP?

I'm going to splurge and by myself a mower in the spring. It'll handy for the orchard and the pasture.

Colin, MN


That is the rating of the gearbox on the mower...it can handle up to 40 hp applied to it from the tractor. Obviously, the larger the gearbox rating...the more robust the unit is.

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gahorN

08-21-2007 07:24:03




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-20-2007 15:48:26  
Just don't get one too big/heavy.
Example: Rhino makes a very nice, sturdy mower. I have an elderly friend who purchased a 72" (6-ft) Rhino new, and found it too small for his huge tractor. (He wished to mow airport runways.) He used it once or twice on smooth turf. He replaced it with a huge 12-ft bat-wing.

It sat outside for a year and faded the paint. It's in mechanically new condition.

My friend retired and went to live in an assisted-living home, and needed to sell it. I bought it from him, and used his 8000 series Ford to load it onto a trailer. Drove it 300 miles to my place.

My 9N won't even pick it up. It barely dragged it off the trailer.

Anyone needing a really nice, sturdy, faded-orange, virtually unused Rhino 72..... contact me. Central TX.

[img]http://www.servis-rhino.com/Catalog/RotaryCutters/72-[/img]

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dwol

08-22-2007 15:35:54




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to gahorN, 08-21-2007 07:24:03  
gahorN,

Not sure what that name stands for, but I could use the Rhino, What is your email?

Regards,

Dave


gahorN said: (quoted from post at 07:24:03 08/21/07) Just don't get one too big/heavy.
Example: Rhino makes a very nice, sturdy mower. I have an elderly friend who purchased a 72" (6-ft) Rhino new, and found it too small for his huge tractor. (He wished to mow airport runways.) He used it once or twice on smooth turf. He replaced it with a huge 12-ft bat-wing.

It sat outside for a year and faded the paint. It's in mechanically new condition.

My friend retired and went to live in an assisted-living home, and needed to sell it. I bought it from him, and used his 8000 series Ford to load it onto a trailer. Drove it 300 miles to my place.

My 9N won't even pick it up. It barely dragged it off the trailer.

Anyone needing a really nice, sturdy, faded-orange, virtually unused Rhino 72..... contact me. Central TX.

[img]http://www.servis-rhino.com/Catalog/RotaryCutters/72-[/img]

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Kenster

08-21-2007 06:38:12




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to Bob - MI, 08-20-2007 15:48:26  

Jeff L. said: (quoted from post at 21:46:59 08/20/07) ). ..... .. It's interesting for me to read the recent posts approving a 5' cutter, because I recall more than one post saying that was too large. Ultimately, I bought a 4-footer..... .....


Jeff, I'm wondering if you misunderstood. I would say the vast majority of opinions is that a five footer is perfect for the N tractor. Some use a six foot but that could be a bit of a strain in some conditions, plus heavier on the 3 point lift. Most people think a four footer is not a good choice because it does not cut behind the rear wheels of the tractor. But I'm glad you're happy with your choice as I am sure others are with their four foot hogs. Some people regret having six foot or four foot hogs but I've never heard anyone complain about having a five footer.

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Ross Pugh(NC)

08-21-2007 07:18:23




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to Kenster, 08-21-2007 06:38:12  
Kenster, I agree with you, the 5' is just right for the n tractors, be it bush hog or finish mower. I have one of each, a Rhino bush hog and a used FMC SC-60 FFinish mower (3 blade, rear discharge). With a 5' if the tractor's rear wheels go by an object, the mower will, also. I would not consider smaller or larger. ORC and stabilizer bars are also a necessity.



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Ken in Arkansas

08-21-2007 06:04:32




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-20-2007 15:48:26  
I have a 5 ft. Bush Hog Squealer that works well with my 8N. While still a solid mower, the Squealer line is a little lighter than some Bush Hog models.



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BillM (OH)

08-20-2007 20:23:09




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-20-2007 15:48:26  
I have a 5' Woods that I bought from a neighbor down the road for $200 when he upgraded to a big green machine - works fine (used is OK if you buy from someone you know & he's honest)!



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Jeff L.

08-20-2007 18:46:59




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-20-2007 15:48:26  
Last year--and presumably now archived--there were several posts on this question, mine being one of them. Lots of comments on what gear to mow in, as well. I was unable to find a used bush hog of any brand, and agreed later with those who said forget it, that in most cases they have been abused (not alwasy, though). It's interesting for me to read the recent posts approving a 5' cutter, because I recall more than one post saying that was too large. Ultimately, I bought a 4-footer new, and to save cash I went to the Chinese (Homier Distributing). About $450 I think it was, delivered to my door. Works fine on my fields and brush.

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rd99

08-20-2007 17:30:27




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-20-2007 15:48:26  
I've got a 5' Covington that's somewhere around 57 year old, cuts nicely.

It's pretty heavy.



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soundguy

08-20-2007 17:06:15




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-20-2007 15:48:26  
I agree with Dan.. a 5' mower is great for the average N. The light/medium duty mowers will be the easiest on your hyd lift.

Howse, kodiak, and King Kutter are the cheaper / lighter brands.

I use a 5' KK on my 8n.. etc.

soundguy



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Dan

08-20-2007 16:02:35




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-20-2007 15:48:26  
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Tractor Supply sells 5' mowers that will work just fine for this job. If you plan on using it quite a bit, or through some stuff on a regular basis - you might want to move up to a beefier mower like a Brush Hog brand. Whatever you choose, stick with the 5' version if you plan on mowing rough stuff and you will be fine.

My mower is an old 5' Mohawk brand mower (no longer in business). It has very thick (heavy) metal and is virtually indestructable. I use it to clear my 42 acres that has been sitting idle for over 50 years.

Dan

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reddogge

08-21-2007 07:52:25




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 Re: Brush hog/mower for my 8N? in reply to Dan, 08-20-2007 16:02:35  
I've pulled a 6' Woods finish mower and 5' Woods brushhog behind my 9N for 18 years and they both work fine. I don't even lift the whole hog off the ground but leave the rear wheel contacting the ground a little so I don't strain anything. I use limiting chains and swaybars on both though.



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