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OT - split rims - can I replace tires myself?

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Britcheflee

08-28-2007 17:28:29




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I have an old international truck with split rims - I can get a couple of good tires and was thinking of doing this myself - anyone here had experience with split rims, and is it a difficult job to replace tires? Or, would I be better off getting the local tire shop to do it?

Lee




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David Snipes

08-30-2007 11:11:15




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 Re: OT - split rims - can I replace tires myself? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-28-2007 17:28:29  
I used to do them for a living. I would not recommend trying it unless you are trained by an experienced person AND only if you have the proper set of tools to disassemble the wheels. I do my own, but I still have my tools. Without the proper tools and experience, you can damage the rings or grooves. Every time I change one, I clean and inspect the parts thoroughly. If they are not in great shape, they don't get put back together. Find a tire shop to do it, or better yet, replace them with drop center wheels.

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Iron Rose Farms

08-29-2007 07:18:49




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 Re: OT - split rims - can I replace tires myself? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-28-2007 17:28:29  
I think I was about 6 years old the first time I seen what a split rim could do... I was standing in a tire shop with my dad and a guy was filling a split rim tire with air he had 4 tow chain thick chains looped around it for safety when it let go ripped through the chains throwing one accross the room embedding it into a concrete block wall and another through the service bay door very near where I was standing. The rim exited the building through the roof and landed on the tire shop owners car parked outside breaking the windshield then rolled out into the middle of the highway where a police car hit the runaway rim. Thank God the only injury was the guy who was filling the tire got beat by the rubber hose flinging around once the air chuck was removed by the flying tire.

As a wee one it left quite an impression...

James

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john hunt

08-29-2007 05:50:54




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 Re: OT - split rims - can I replace tires myself? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-28-2007 17:28:29  
dear mister cheapo they easy to do ...I had done thousand when I in my teen and didn't know the diffence ... major one thing to... " REMEMBER " total darkest only 6 ft away .... if you think you lock the ring on again good luck
you want to know something. go the a truck junk yard and get you a cheap set of all steel rim or order new set... you wife will love you or your girlfriend will which ever one you have .... probly most other here would say the same thing here.. " I seen too many people get hurt because they to cheap to replace new style rim" ... they quit working on spit rim in 70' THROW THEM IN THE SCRAP BIN OR USE HAS A DOOR STOP ...

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Pooh Bear

08-29-2007 03:24:51




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 Re: OT - split rims - can I replace tires myself? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-28-2007 17:28:29  
You will be lucky to find a tire shop that will handle them anymore.

My old dump truck had split rims on it when I got it.

After a few years it got to the point that only one shop would touch them.

And I think they were only doing mine cause I was a long time customer.

I finally switched all my rims out to one piece rims. Lotsa $$$$$.

They don't call them widow makers for nothing.

I have seen what happens when one blows a ring while inflating.

I changed a few myself when I couldn't get to the shop and was desperate.

The following is for educational purposes only. (disclaimer):

First let all the air out of the tire by removing the valve core. Then

lay the tire flat with the ring side up and go around it hitting the tire bead

with a maddock to unseat the bead and be able to remove the ring.

The ring just pries off like a big snap ring. Unseat the bead on the other

side of the rim and the tire comes right off. Put the new tire back on

and put the ring in place and then take log chains and place them around

the tire and rim at several different places to hold the ring if it blows.

Get one of them tire chucks that you can attach to the valve stem and

have it stay on by itself so you don't have to have your arm near the tire.

Then tell your loved ones good bye and make sure your health and life

insurance is all paid up. Now stand well away from it and start airing it up.

A big problem with these type of rims is they are old and the rings have

likely been subjected to many cycles of being removed and reinstalled.

This tends to stretch and weaken the rings making them more prone

to blowing off when you inflate them. I know it cost some money but

you are better off going to a junkyard and getting some one piece rims.

It could save you and your loved ones a lot of grief.

Pooh Bear

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ericlb

08-28-2007 21:09:34




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 Re: OT - split rims - can I replace tires myself? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-28-2007 17:28:29  
old is right if your not real familier with them,leave them alone,ive done a bunch myself but i sure don't like them anymore, that being said, all you need to do is call a mobile tire repair truck,based with a tire shop that handels equipment tires, this guy will be trained to do them as some off road equipment still has those,dont bother to go to the local walmart or any other box store type place that sels auto tires, this guy will be maybe 22 years old and probably has never seen a split rim, much less knows anything about them, do yours have the outside lock ring like a 10;00 20, or are they split in the middle like a 8;25 20

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Tom New Jersey

08-28-2007 19:16:56




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 Re: OT - split rims - can I replace tires myself? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-28-2007 17:28:29  
When I was kid in the late 40s a friend's father was mounting a tire on a split rim for a 30's Ford dump truck. The ring blew off hit him in the side of his head cutting off half his ear and put a very deep gash in his head. I don't know why it did not kill him, don't try it..... ..



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JMOR

08-28-2007 18:16:27




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 Re: OT - split rims - can I replace tires myself? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-28-2007 17:28:29  
A local fellow was killed by one here last year. He even had the safety cage to air them up in, but wasn't using it. Real shame for the wife & kids.
Modern trucks don't use them.



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Tex P

08-28-2007 17:52:17




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 Re: OT - split rims - can I replace tires myself? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-28-2007 17:28:29  
From what I hear, split rims can be KILLERS. Get someone who knows how, and has the equipment to mount them!
You only get one life, preserve it!
Tex



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old

08-28-2007 17:44:49




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 Re: OT - split rims - can I replace tires myself? in reply to Britcheflee, 08-28-2007 17:28:29  
Unless you have worked at a tire shop and know 100% what your doing DON'T mess with them. If you do some thing just a little wrong on one it will take your head off. YES clear off your shoulders and you will not even no what happened. Split rims are not things to mess with unless you know how to work on them and even then there are 100s of people that have been killed by them. Ya I do my own but I have also done that for a living at one time and seen more then one that the ring has gone fling and its not pretty when they do that.

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DennyF

08-28-2007 18:19:47




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 Re: OT - split rims - can I replace tires myself? in reply to old, 08-28-2007 17:44:49  
Yep, it's why tire shops have inflation cages.

We used to do our own 10:00-20s when I was a kid, but looped three short chains around the tire/rim when inflating. Sometimes ya think the rings are seated, sometimes you're wrong.

My uncle had a little adjustable steel stand to set the tire/rim onto, so pressure was exerted against the rim when mounting or dismounting tires.



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