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OT - Gettin' ready for corn pickin'

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Ed S. (IL)

09-07-2007 18:44:44




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Hooked up the New Idea two row corn picker to the 8N last weekend, and everything seems to be running fine on it. We fed a few stalks of sweet corn through it by hand and it did what it was supposed to.

Will be interesting to see if the N can run two rows at once. Anyone have any experience with one?

es

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Ed S. (IL)

09-10-2007 08:29:27




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 Re: OT - Gettin' ready for corn pickin' in reply to Ed S. (IL), 09-07-2007 18:44:44  
Thanks for the info... We're on perfectly flat ground, and my yield will be pretty light compared to the real farmers around us. We don't use chemicals on the corn (mechanically cultivated with the 8N - this being my first time doing it, some of the corn suffered iron poisoning <grin>), and it was seeded by hand (no operational 36" planter on hand, so I don't have nice closely spaced plants like the fields around us).
I'll give it a try with one row to start and see how she does. I have no problem punting and borrowing a larger tractor from a neighbor if the N doesn't hack it, but I won't know for sure until I try. I appreciate hearing others experiences, as it helps me know what to expect, and I'll pass along my experiences to hopefully help others when I'm done.

es

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Leroy

09-11-2007 04:27:09




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 Re: OT - Gettin' ready for corn pickin' in reply to Ed S. (IL), 09-10-2007 08:29:27  
Picking one row will not work. It will still take as much power as you will be trying to run the already picked row through again only on the other row for to still need as much power as if it was unpicked. The picked row will want to do nothing but plug. After the 1 rows used 2 row, both pull type oliver 73 and John Deere mounted and finnishing picking a land if you did not get the rows counted so you had two rows to finnish (only one) then you had to raise the snouts enough to clear the already picked row (to keep fronm plugging) and then you would be high enough with the snapping rolls that you would go over the top of some of the corn. This was still the same with a corn head on the combine.

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Leroy

09-10-2007 05:23:45




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 Re: OT - Gettin' ready for corn pickin' in reply to Ed S. (IL), 09-07-2007 18:44:44  
You will not pull that picker in any corn yielding over 25 bushels per acre. The picker running empty takes hardly any power to run but put it under a goon load and it will take 40 horsepower to run in 100 bushel corn. Your tractor if it is the latest 8N will have 28 HP or if a front mount less and it just will not do it.. I have a 2N Dad boughjt new in 1944 and in 1946 he bought a new GI (General Implement) 1 row picker and he pulled it but in 1953 they traded it off as it would no longer hold together on to a Oliver 1 row No. 5 Picker and they had to switch to Grandpa's 41 Farmall H to pull that picker as it was too much of a load for the Ford.
Years ago a neighbor had a sale with a 2 row picker with the side throw elevator and somebody bought it with the intension of running it with a small Ford and pullying the wagon with that side delivery elevator with a second tractor. Don't think that ever worked and everybody at the sale thought the guy was crazy to eventry it. They pull harder than you think. You need at least a 800 tractor to pull one and then it would need to be the 5 speed as the 4 speed with the same low gear you have is to fast a ground speed for anything over 7-80 bushel corn. And this is on flat level ground. You will just get in the field and stall the tractor and plug up the picker because it will not handle it. And that picker is only designed for max 125 bu per acre corn, yes they will handle heavier yields but you better have enough power and a slow enough speed to do it. You do not have either. And the 1 row Wood Bros picker designed and sold for that tractor took less power to run than the New Idea 1 row sold at the same time and 2 row will double the power needed.

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Colin King

09-08-2007 17:42:22




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 Re: OT - Gettin' ready for corn pickin' in reply to Ed S. (IL), 09-07-2007 18:44:44  
Ed, That is so aweseome! As for HP, I'm guessing the N should handle the 2 rower just fine. That's what the Woods Bros/Dearborn picker was. The New Idea pickers are solid pieces of equipment.

I'm with Paul .... post some action photos!

Colin, MN



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Leroy

09-10-2007 05:03:14




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 Re: OT - Gettin' ready for corn pickin' in reply to Colin King, 09-08-2007 17:42:22  
Wood Bros - Dearborn NEVER made a 2 row corn picker, only 1 row. I have one of them. The only 2 row they ever made was carring the Ford Name and was a mounted picker for the 900 series tractor



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Colin King

09-10-2007 07:43:20




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 Re: OT - Gettin' ready for corn pickin' in reply to Leroy, 09-10-2007 05:03:14  
Ah, my mistake. Thanks for getting me straight on that.

Colin



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Ed S. (IL)

09-08-2007 16:24:51




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 Re: OT - Gettin' ready for corn pickin' in reply to Ed S. (IL), 09-07-2007 18:44:44  
Good advice on working the N on hills. My corn (about 1.5 acres) is all on flat, and I don't have to road to get to it, so I should be in good shape. I know when I bale with the N and the rack is getting full, the slight grade at the north end of my hay field is about as much as I feel comfortable with.

Will post photos and maybe video after we pick (which will be a few weeks yet - I got my corn in quite a bit later than the 'real' farmers around me, who are already out combining.

es

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tim[in]

09-08-2007 10:05:08




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 Re: OT - Gettin' ready for corn pickin' in reply to Ed S. (IL), 09-07-2007 18:44:44  
My grandfather used a 1952 8n that i am hoping to locate some day, with a #7 new idea one row and pulling a wagon. I remember seeing in the ford litature a 9n pulling a 2 row picker and another pulling the wagon. I think that might be the one with dual wheels in the pic.



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Paul in MN

09-07-2007 20:05:32




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 Re: OT - Gettin' ready for corn pickin' in reply to Ed S. (IL), 09-07-2007 18:44:44  
Ed,

It would be good to see pictures of that picker in action (better yet to be there to take in the whole sense of action).

But one caution, which I learned the hard way (but thankfully no one was injured). The 2400 lb 8N or other N can not stop or control much load on a hill or even through a ditch or rise onto the field. That wagon when filled with corn on ears will be about 5000 lbs. The picker probably weighs 2500 lbs, and you on your tractor will go another 2500 lbs. Even if the N's brakes are perfect, you can not have enough weight on the rear tires to have the traction needed to pull or stop 10,000 lbs total if you get on any kind of uphill or downhill slope. Take care and stay on nearly perfectly flat ground, including entering or leaving the field, and don't use 4th gear for road speed to get to the field.

With proper precautions, it should be pure fun!

Paul in MN

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Den N Ms

09-07-2007 18:59:19




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 Re: OT - Gettin' ready for corn pickin' in reply to Ed S. (IL), 09-07-2007 18:44:44  
Ed,Your 8N should be able to pick corn with with that New Idea just fine.I have picked many acres of corn with a picker just like that one.Used a JD B and my old 2N with no live pto on it with no problems.Back in the days.



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