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GA Dave

09-29-2007 18:21:02




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OK! I.m thinking about repainting my 49 8N. I plan on making a 250 gallon electrolysis tank that will hold the hood and rear rims etc. Question #1 How do you separate the gas tank from the hood sheet metal? Question #2 Has anyone ever built a 250 gallon tank for this purpose and will a 10 amp charger work? More questions to follow. TIA, David.




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GA Dave

09-30-2007 19:39:24




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 Re: Repainting 8N in reply to GA Dave, 09-29-2007 18:21:02  
Thanks to all. Nice results Dave TX. Cryptkeeper, Go to www.fboeger.com for more info. David.



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Cryptkeeper

09-30-2007 06:14:11




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 Re: Repainting 8N in reply to Huggins in Aggieland, 09-29-2007 18:21:02  

Dave (Tx) said: (quoted from post at 03:40:38 09/30/07) Had rust over the whole tractor. I had to put just about every piece in electrolysis. I posted before and after pics.

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THAT's>Link Great info fellers. I need to do the same with my 9N. Can you give more specific info on the eletrolysis (metal/solutions to use etc...)

Dang, the info ya git on this forum is FANTASTIC!!

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Dave (Tx)

09-30-2007 10:53:55




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 Re: Repainting 8N in reply to Cryptkeeper, 09-30-2007 06:14:11  
Electrolysis is a rust removal process you can use on just about any sheet metal part. It will also remove paint. To use electrolysis you'll need a plastic container able to hold whatever item you want to clean. You'll also need to buy washing soda aka soda ash. Some people use baking soda but I can tell you from experiance that baking soda will leave a residue. Its just as easy to use washing soda and avoid the problem. Next you'll need a peice of sacrifice metal. This peice of metal will be destroyed. Next you'll need a battery charger and water.

Note: Instead of soda ash you can use lye. If you do, use pure lye - not Draino. Again this will leave an undesired residue. Also lye will definitely remove all paint and lye is MUCH more dangerous to work with. Animals or humans who get into the solution will be harmed - esp if it gets in their eyes. Personally I NEVER use lye.

Now put your part in the container and attach the BLACK (Negative) lead from the battery charger. Next put the sacrifice metal in and attach the RED(positive) lead. IF YOU GET THESE REVERSED YOU WILL DESTROY THE GOOD PART. Do not let the sacrifice metal touch the good part. Put in about 1 tbls of soda ash per gallon of water.(this ratio is not critical)

I put the soda ash in first and spray the water on helping it dissolve. Once the water is in turn the power on the charger. 2 amps is plenty. NOTE: Make sure you grind down to bare metal on the sacrifice metal and good part to ensure good contact with the metal - rust is NOT a good conductor.

Now just wait. You can leave this setup on for weeks if you desire. Sometimes if the rust is really bad I'll remove the part after a few days and wire brush all the loose rust off then continue with the electroylsis.

After a few treatments your sacrifice metal will be useless and you'll need to replace. I've found using 1 - 2 foot sections of cut up metal fense posts works very well. Good luck.

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Dave H

09-30-2007 05:39:45




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 Re: Repainting 8N in reply to GA Dave, 09-29-2007 18:21:02  
I use a different aproach on rims. They stand up in the wall mart storage conatainer I use for the tank. They just have to be rotated a coule of times to get the whole rim. That way I get the inside of the rim, where the heavy corrosion usually is totally clear of rust.



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Dave (Tx)

09-29-2007 19:40:38




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 Re: Repainting 8N in reply to GA Dave, 09-29-2007 18:21:02  
Had rust over the whole tractor. I had to put just about every piece in electrolysis. I posted before and after pics.

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Dave (Tx)

09-29-2007 19:00:26




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 Re: Repainting 8N in reply to GA Dave, 09-29-2007 18:21:02  
The gas tank attaches to the hood by 4 bolts I believe. I removed the hood and tank together. Drain all the gas out and make sure you unattach the fuel line. Go get a neighbor and remove the whole assy. Its not particularly heavy but it is bulky.

As far as your electrolysys tank - yes it will work. I can tell you I treated the hood using a large plastic container I bought at Wal Mart. For the rims I rigged up a unique solution. I made the rims themselves the tank. I put a tupperware bole over the center hole and used the rim as the tank. There wii be a small area around the center hole when the rim is on the high side. I put an insulator piece in and put the sacrifice metal on it. To do the hood - I put hald in half out in the Wal Mart container then after treating one side flipped it and treated the other.

But to answer yor question, yes a 10 amp charger is fine. You may want to attach sacrifice metals at both ends however.

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ricko700

09-29-2007 19:11:57




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 Re: Repainting 8N in reply to Dave (Tx), 09-29-2007 19:00:26  
Dangggg..some of you guys are pretty dam smart!! Seriously!! Why did u do the hood..I see why on the wheels,



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