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Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT

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Britcheflee

10-20-2007 08:39:51




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Great excitement this morning!...after eating a vast quantity of chicken food and producing an equally vast amount of poop one of the hens the children have eventually laid an egg!

We have 5 hens and a crazy looking little rooster with a mohawk...my question is....should we just leave this first egg as is to encourage the rest to produce eggs...and, if you get the egg early enough I guess there is no problems eating an egg which might be fertilized? Might give us all a horrible shock to open an egg and find one of theose phillipino baloot things inside!!!

Lee

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Britcheflee

10-21-2007 23:25:29




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Britcheflee, 10-20-2007 08:39:51  
[quote="Dunk"](reply to post at 16:45:03 10/21/07) [/quot

I completely understand what you are saying - my father used to say - dont waste your food - that creature died to feed you -
I work in the restaurant business - and at a fancy country club golf course - the waste of food is beyond belief - hundreds of people living in starvation could happily feast on the stuff we heave into the dumpsters every night.

A few months ago we brought in a whole pig for a luau for some rich doctor - no big deal really, but believe it or not probably 90% of the youngsters working there as buss boys, runners, front of house etc had NEVER seen a complete prepped out pig - the girls were horrified and disgusted, the young lads fascinated and of course could not stop looking at it, poking it, looking at its tounge, eyes or whatever (probably not knowing they had eaten most of those strange parts in a hot dog earlier that day) - it just brought home to me how divorced and isolated the average person is from the actual reality of what goes on every day in slaughter houses all over america....millions of chickens, pigs, cattle and other creatures pumped through the system as if they are non-living commodities.

We are small in comparison to lets say all those casinos giving away food at rock bottom prices at all you can eat buffets to encourage customers to come in - but on a busy night on 'prime rib night' we cook off about 10 prime ribs - 5 animals needed for that.

I think that if each person had to actually slaughter an animal of some sort at some time maybe they would have a bit more respect for where their burger, chicken nuggets or whatever come from and what had to occour before they got to eat that.

Respect the food you eat, eat well, eat less and make more time to enjoy a simple good meal with your family - rather than loading up on pizza or burgers try getting some really good cheese, make a great salad out of fresh items, some olives, some really good bread and good butter, and a glass of good local wine...you will be amazed at how wonderful that is.

Less is more.

Lee

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Dunk

10-21-2007 16:45:03




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Britcheflee, 10-20-2007 08:39:51  
I do have something else to say here, but not sure how to, or of the consequences of trying.

The Real Americans (American Indians) ate off the land, and thanked God for the sustenance.

The New Americans did the same. All thanked God for their agriculture, as well as for their hunting game.

Folks 40 to 50+ years ago, HAD to do their own food, but no matter what they RESPECTED it, and gave thanks for it.

Now how many folks thank God over a Big Mac, or respect the animal that provided the sustenance?

Hopefully you can understand my point.

I ask for Gods blessing for every 18 wheeler load of chickens I see on the road on the way to market, do I eat chicken, yes!!

God gave us dominion over the animals, but most folks prefer to leave the dirty work up to a few underpaid folks, and forgit about caring about the animal, or the blessing it is for us to have what we need.

They have also desecrated it with hormones, drugs, and what have you, they feed them stuff to grow them off, then we eat them, and it does the same to us, and our children.

I do apologize for this rant, but I do mean every word of that.

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Dunk

10-21-2007 15:36:09




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Britcheflee, 10-20-2007 08:39:51  
I'm not sure how many of you have actually cleaned chickens, but we used to get some right pretty polished rocks out of their craws back in tha day.



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Dunk

10-20-2007 19:43:00




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Britcheflee, 10-20-2007 08:39:51  
LMAO!!

Amen!!



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lomow

10-20-2007 19:41:04




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Britcheflee, 10-20-2007 08:39:51  
Farmer brought in another new young rooster. Old rooster challenged him to race around the house. Farmer saw the young rooster chasing old rooster and shot him, exclaiming, "Dang, that"s the third queer rooster I"ve had this week!" Moral: old age and treachery will beat youth and skill every time!



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Dunk

10-20-2007 17:48:27




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Britcheflee, 10-20-2007 08:39:51  
I have finally got the folks here eating home grown eggs. But they did remove the roosters from the pen first. As long as you keep up the gathering daily, and put them in the frig it shouldn't be a problem though.

We have a yard full of roosters now though, and I haven't been able to get anyone interested in cleaning and cooking any of them though.

We have a pen full of some good sized rabbits, but still haven't got anyone in on eating any yet.

I may have to do it while they run off to town, and have supper ready when they git home and not tell them what we had till later.

Tame rabbit and dumplings, Ell yeah, that sounds good!!

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Jim SC

10-20-2007 14:42:59




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Britcheflee, 10-20-2007 08:39:51  
If you gather eggs every day, you won't have to worry. Eat "em or put them in the fridge, either way, they will not be boluts...and they will taste better than ones you get at the store. (I think EVERYTHING I raise is better than store bought..tomatos, okra, potatos, peas, beans and even deer meat...opps, I raise them things "second hand") We have lots of ferral hogs here in SC and I can't tell much difference in the taste...wild or tame...but the price is MUCH better.

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Dave H

10-20-2007 12:07:15




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Britcheflee, 10-20-2007 08:39:51  
well if ya don't look until the egg white turns white in the skillet, you will never know.

I can tell someone has never been chased out of the hen house by a bad a**ed rooster.



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Ken(Ark)

10-20-2007 11:42:51




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Britcheflee, 10-20-2007 08:39:51  
Take a shoe box and cut a hole about the size of a quarter . Set the egg in the hole and shine a flash light from the other side . It works best in a very dark room with a strong light. You should be able to see a clear yolk with no spots in it .



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Dell (WA)

10-20-2007 11:15:10




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Britcheflee, 10-20-2007 08:39:51  
Britcheflee..... ...chickens are a "length of daylite" egg layer. As the daylite gitts shorter, (its October already), guess what??, they quit laying eggs. With proper lite control, they will lay thru the winter months. (putt a "timer" on yer chicken-coop lite for at least 12-hrs of lite, doesn't haffta be too brite) Chickens don't need the "services of a rooster" to lay eggs, just iff'n you want "fertile eggs". There is NO documented data to support the contention that fertile or brown eggs are "better", but suit yer self. BTW, 1-rooster can keep 50-hens happy.

Many small flock hens will "share" the same nest iff'n you leave a "fake-egg" in it to keep them coming back. My hens would "kick-out" the lite-weight plastic fake eggs, I finally found a real "glass-egg" and that kept them laying in the same nest. Pick-up yer eggs daily. Real layers will lay 1-egg/day in their prime. Pullets start about 1-week, and work up to 1-day. Make certain you have plenty of oyster-shell for egg-shell strength. While "commercial layer feed" is supposed to have adequate calcium for egg-shell strength, my hens always enjoyed peckin' at the oyster-shell.

Its hard to beat the taste of fresh eggs (they don't run all over the frying pan), its equally hard to beat the "price" of grocery-store eggs.

There lots of "self-help" chicken raisin' books and search the internet full of chicken raising sites. Dang, gotta go fry me some store-eggs for breakfast..... .....Dell

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KenBr (NJ)

10-21-2007 15:31:18




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Dell (WA), 10-20-2007 11:15:10  
Dell...I was just having dinner last night with more "suburban" friends, when the whole chicken/rooster/egg thing came up again. I expect that my male friends would assume that the rooster had something to do with my breakfast, but I am SHOCKED, time and again that it really is the Women to whom I have to explain the chicken (mammal) facts of life. Gets embarrasing when you are in a group of 50 year old plus gals.

Obviously, we Roosters have nothing to do with breakfast!!

Ken

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Indiana Jones

10-20-2007 11:15:04




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Britcheflee, 10-20-2007 08:39:51  
I have a co-worker that raises chickens and I get eggs from him from time to time. His birds free range and he told me that if raw eggs float in cold water then they're bad. Something to do with gas that builds up in them. Thought I'd throw that in there for anyone else to comment on. Seems to make sense to me, but I can't verify. If I have a cold floater, then I pitch it.



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Dell (WA)

10-20-2007 11:26:48




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Indiana Jones, 10-20-2007 11:15:04  
Jonesie..... .....yer acquaintance is correct, BAD eggs float. Why??? "cuz the eggshell is porous and the moisture inside the shell evaporates making it lite enuff to float (eventually). By that time the egg is VERY OLD and most likely ROTTEN. (we're talkin' MONTHS old) Ever crack an egg and see kinda air pocket? That normal evaporation. Realize lotta store bought eggs are already 3-months old; they've been refrigerated and hydrated. They're NOT SPOILED (yet)..... ...Dell

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DON TX

10-20-2007 10:32:24




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Britcheflee, 10-20-2007 08:39:51  
If the rooster is the same age as the hens, he probly can't fertilize yet. They have to be a little older than the hens. A couple of months, I think. If I remove the eggs from the nest my hen will find another place to lay. they freerange so it's hard to control where they lay. They usually will lay several eggs before they try to set. HTH
DON TX



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cargocult

10-20-2007 09:32:38




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Britcheflee, 10-20-2007 08:39:51  
"if you get the egg early enough I guess there is no problems eating an egg which might be fertilized? Might give us all a horrible shock to open an egg and find one of theose phillipino baloot things inside!!!"


Well if u don't like Baluts (& I don't, having only tried one many years ago!) I would respectfully suggest either candling the eggs or doing what most country folks do...opening the egg and dropping it into a separate bowl. Then if it looks OK, u can then add it to the ingredients. We usta get FRESH EGGS from our neighbors (who raised chickens..all gone now) I still chuckle over one of my ex-girlfriends that was cooking a cake or something else that required eggs & was surprised to see a bloody mess! Ruint all the ingredients she had already added. We were used to opening the eggs in a seperate container as the Sanfords did NOT candle their eggs, at least the ones they gave us! Real Fresh eggs are one of the benefits of country living! Of course now I am forced to utilize the EVIL FOOD LION 4 all my groceries and pay exorbitant $$ for eggs! (& everything else, but that is a seperate rant, hehehe!) The other posters gave u some good info. Enjoy! CC

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old

10-20-2007 09:07:27




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Britcheflee, 10-20-2007 08:39:51  
Unless you have a chicken that wants to sit then I would pick up the egg. If you want them to lay eggs in one spot or nest buy a plastic egg or 2 and put it in the nests. Also this time of year isn't a good time to let hens set because they chick can get to cold. Also if the birds are young they have to be 6 plus month old to start laying eggs. An also this time of year chicken slow down on the number of eggs they lay. I also keep at least one rooster in with my hens and most of the time I have 2 or more. I pick up around 8-10 eggs a day from my chickens. Now in the spring I do sometimes leave eggs in one nest if it looks like I have a hen that wants to set so I get young birds to replace the old ones

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soundguy

10-20-2007 08:52:58




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 Re: Chicken egg question to all farmers out there OT in reply to Britcheflee, 10-20-2007 08:39:51  
I keep roosters in my chix pens for a few reasons.

Thus most of the eggs i get are fertalized.

I like to collect eggs they we will eat, every day. Eggs i want to leave, for instance if i have a hen that is broody.. I will make a pencil mark on the egg so I know to skip it.

If you would like, leave the egg as a test.. see if your hen is broody.. IE.. if she will set.

Some hens are just egg layers.. not egg setters.

I have some big sexlink and rhode isle red hens that lay fine.. but won't set.. thus I collect their eggs to eat, or to incubate.. I've even slipped one under another setting hen.. etc.

On the other hand.. if i have a hen that is broody.. I let her set when she has a clutch of eggs. I have about 7 newly hatched chix inthe pens right now, and then another 7 or so that are a few weeks old, and previous to that I had about another 7 that were a month old that I just introduced back into the main population. ( I xfer the hen and newly hatched chicks to a 'holding' area so they can get some hands on training without being bothered by other chickens.. etc..

int he end.. all you are loosing is 1 egg by doing this 'test'

don't be concerned if she doesn't set on this first egg.. or if it doesn't hatch..... sometimes it takes som practice to get it right.. just like with us humans!

Soundguy

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