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Al Rynne

11-07-2007 08:25:51




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looking to buy a 1939 9-N. Two questions.

1. It has a tap in the engine, the seller told me this was normal in old Ford flatheads.

2. He is asking $2,500 for it, it runs, however it is not restored and come with a wokring (but not pretty) brush hog, and a set of discs. Is that a good deal?

Any advice would be really helpful.




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Mark Pearce

11-08-2007 00:30:42




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 Re: tap in engine, price in reply to Al Rynne, 11-07-2007 08:25:51  
Al, If it's in real real good shape, has an over or under drive transmission, great sheetmetal, and newer tires and good original rims it may be worth two grand. Most importantly if you can do all the possible future work yourself. Other than that leave it alone! Too many other fish in the sea.


Mark...



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JMOR

11-07-2007 18:15:19




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 Re: tap in engine, price in reply to Al Rynne, 11-07-2007 08:25:51  
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$500.
Running for under $50
New tires, $400



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Tom N MS

11-07-2007 17:05:36




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 Re: tap in engine, price in reply to Al Rynne, 11-07-2007 08:25:51  
The one I got for $500.. Drove it home 10 miles.



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Tom N MS

11-07-2007 17:05:23




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 Re: tap in engine, price in reply to Al Rynne, 11-07-2007 08:25:51  
The one I got for $500.. Drove it home 10 miles.



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Dan

11-07-2007 14:41:57




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 Re: tap in engine, price in reply to Al Rynne, 11-07-2007 08:25:51  
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Here is a pic of the 1939 9N I got for $1,400. Not pretty, but it ran and the hydraulics worked. No implements came with it. I would see if I could talk him down a bit, but that is not a bad price if it really is a 1939 9N. Those are pretty rare, and usually are a collectors item.

Plan on spending some money getting it in tip top shape.

Good luck,
Dan

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old

11-07-2007 12:04:42




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 Re: tap in engine, price in reply to Al Rynne, 11-07-2007 08:25:51  
Run don't walk away from that one. No engine flat head ot over wise should make a tap sound when running and thats trouble from the get go. Shoot if you want a 9N I have one I would sell for less then that and an 8N I would sell for that price and the 8N has a loader to boot



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Dave H

11-07-2007 10:41:12




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 Re: tap in engine, price in reply to Al Rynne, 11-07-2007 08:25:51  
Al

with a friend like that you don't need enemies.

I would walk unless you can determine the wood pecker is something like a valve.

Then I would probably still walk unless he took repairs into consideration.

There are ones out there without the wood peckers for reasonable prices.



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Colin King

11-07-2007 09:10:07




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 Re: tap in engine, price in reply to Al Rynne, 11-07-2007 08:25:51  
Al,

Also, if you have not looked through this, here is a discussion of things to look for. All Ns are similar enough for this to be applicable to your case.

Colin



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Colin King

11-07-2007 08:55:55




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 Re: tap in engine, price in reply to Al Rynne, 11-07-2007 08:25:51  
Al, It's also possible to mistake an engine knock for a warped crankshaft pulley or an exhaust leak.

Here's a link to a recording of my 8N ('44 2N engine). The knocking noise you hear is a warped sheetmetal pulley and an exhaust leak where the manifold mates to the tail pipe.

In Central Minnesota, a serviceable disc runs about $100/foot. A good rotary mower will be around $350-$500, depending on brand.

If you consider that, you are purchasing a tractor in the neighborhood of $1,700 with or without engine trouble. I think that's a good price, but be cautioned that it may need some work. The question you have to ask yourself is whether or not you are prepared to do that work.

I hope that helps you some. Good luck!

Colin, MN

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Dan in CO

11-07-2007 08:34:43




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 Re: tap in engine, price in reply to Al Rynne, 11-07-2007 08:25:51  
Al;

See & read the post a few down titled "confessions of an "N" newbie to press home the issue of what you might find.



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Bruce (VA)

11-07-2007 08:34:02




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 Re: tap in engine, price in reply to Al Rynne, 11-07-2007 08:25:51  
The seller is either ignorant or a liar; as the potential buyer, it's up to you to figure it out. No, flatheads do not normally have a tap in the engine. I think I'll add that statement to my list of lines like "They all need to be converted to 12 volts or they will never start in the winter" and "The lift always falls when you turn the engine off".

How do you know it is a 1939? I'd verify the serial number first. IF it is a 1939, they are hard to find. IF the tap is a valve, not a big problem. IF the tap is a rod or wrist pin, that's a bigger problem, but not a deal breaker.

When a seller makes a statement like that, my BS radar goes to full scan. I would verify everything he is telling you.

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