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12 VOLT CONVERSION

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SWHARTZ

02-07-2000 07:54:30




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WHO SELLS THE BEST 12 VOLT CONVERSION FOR AN 8N. MY 6 VOLT SYSTEM JUST ISN'T CUTTING IT. ALSO I JUST ADDED NEW 6 VOLT LIGHTS TO THE TRACTOR AT $14 EACH, IS THERE A METHOD TO REDUCE THE VOLTAGE SO THAT I DON'T NEED TO REPLACE THE BULBS




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Charlie V.

02-08-2000 19:38:11




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 Re: 12 VOLT CONVERSION in reply to SWHARTZ, 02-07-2000 07:54:30  
Borg Warner makes a voltage reducer part number
vr1,but you will have to know the ohms you need
to run the six volt bulbs there is a diagrm in the box. Coils work on ohms as well as voltage. Borg Warner and Napa have such coils and says no reisistor needed on the coil.
BWD E40 is Borg Warner part number.
Check it out!



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Brent(AR)

02-07-2000 19:45:04




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 Re: 12 VOLT CONVERSION in reply to SWHARTZ, 02-07-2000 07:54:30  
Rather than purchasing a kit, I suggest buying an alternator, a coil with a built in resistor, buy or make your own bracket, and make your own wiring harness. It is very simple to do and I can send you all of the part numbers, and diagrams that you will need. The cost will be significantly less, and you get the satisfaction of building it from scratch.

Brent(AR)



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Chuck Phillips

01-26-2002 18:09:20




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 Re: Re: 12 VOLT CONVERSION in reply to Brent(AR), 02-07-2000 19:45:04  
Could someone e-mail me the instructions on how the brackets mount. I have the parts. The tractor had already been converted but they made the brackets and the belt rubs, and I cant get the belt tight enough. I have the correct parts now I just dont know how the mount. Can some one help. I have a front mount dist. Pictures please



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Dave 50 8N

02-08-2000 11:51:03




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 Re: Re: 12 VOLT CONVERSION in reply to Brent(AR), 02-07-2000 19:45:04  
I'd like the instructions. I believe I have a 6 v system with a 12 battery...just have to charge it once in a while, but I want lights. Can you email me at the address indicated above?

thanks!



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No coil with built in resistor

02-07-2000 22:36:20




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 Re: Re: 12 VOLT CONVERSION in reply to Brent(AR), 02-07-2000 19:45:04  
There is NO SUCH THING as a coil with a BUILT IN RESISTOR.

IT IS SIMPLY A 12 VOLT COIL.

Elvy



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Nolan

02-08-2000 04:57:57




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 Re: Re: Re: 12 VOLT CONVERSION in reply to No coil with built in resistor, 02-07-2000 22:36:20  
You might want to check with companies like Mallory, MSD, Jacobs and such. All of whom make ignition coils with built in resistors.

Look, the math is quite simple. Wires have resistance. Make the ignition coil with the proper type of wire, and you achieve the resistance needed for the ignition circuit without the need for an external resistance.

You can use a ballast type resistor, you can use a resistor wire, or you can use a resistor coil. All will work, all exist, and all are in use.

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Mike in NC

02-07-2000 10:29:23




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 Re: 12 VOLT CONVERSION in reply to SWHARTZ, 02-07-2000 07:54:30  
I just installed the Tisco setup. I found it very easy to install and works great. Its a one-wire alternator which some folks don't like, but I just increase the rpm's a little when I first start it and it self-excites immediately and works then at all rpms. The kit includes all new wiring, the alternator, the necessary brackets and adapter, and a resistor. It took me very little time to install. The few questions I had, were readily answered by the good folks here at the N-Board. With regard to your 6V headlamps, I think someone else has already answered the question.

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swhartz

02-07-2000 11:04:42




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 Re: Re: 12 VOLT CONVERSION in reply to Mike in NC, 02-07-2000 10:29:23  
Where did you purchase your Tisco kit. The kits I've found cost between $180 and $200.



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Mike in NC

02-07-2000 13:48:21




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 Re: Re: Re: 12 VOLT CONVERSION in reply to swhartz, 02-07-2000 11:04:42  
I bought it at Leinbach's Farm Equipment in Winston-Salem. It was $175.00 which was cheaper than replacing the worn out generator I had and got the new wiring and resister to boot. I try to normally support the Board sponsors for rebuilt parts etc as much as I can, but I needed this conversion right away to get ready for our recent snow. I like Leinbach's big selection of N parts and they're real helpful.

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Phil (NJ)

02-07-2000 08:47:52




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 Re: 12 VOLT CONVERSION in reply to SWHARTZ, 02-07-2000 07:54:30  
Swhartz, "IS THERE A METHOD TO REDUCE THE VOLTAGE SO THAT I DON'T NEED TO REPLACE THE BULBS"

You could wire them in series (2 ea 6v = 12v) but you would have to isolate the grounds

Hope this Helps



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zman

02-07-2000 21:19:56




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 Re: Re: 12 VOLT CONVERSION in reply to Phil (NJ), 02-07-2000 08:47:52  
I believe you would NOT read it that way.
In series, you would read resistance, not voltage.
And isolate the ground?....WHERE????? You are converting to a 12V system!!!
Wouldn't you be better off, putting a suitable resister in line with the headlamp wiring?



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Phil (NJ)

02-08-2000 06:06:07




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 Re: Re: Re: 12 VOLT CONVERSION in reply to zman, 02-07-2000 21:19:56  
Zman, The Voltage Drop across each Lamp, in series, would be 6V. You would need to remove the Ground
on 1 (one) Lamp, and route the Hot side through that Lamp to the second Lamp. Down side is like series Xmas Lights, both lamps must be working for a completed circuit.

JMHO



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