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old 9

11-16-2007 17:05:43




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Dell or ? Some time back my NAA was running badly. A friend was helping and discovered the coil polarity was reversed. It had been that way when I bought it, and ran well. My DC knowledge is very faded. ( I have CRS). How does the polarity effect the sparkeys? Thanks Joe PS replaced spark plugs and switched coil wires. Runs great.




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Dell (WA)

11-16-2007 21:16:38




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 Re: Dell polarity? in reply to old 9, 11-16-2007 17:05:43  
Oldie..... ..I'm glad you got yer coil polarity answered to yer satisfaction.

But to further expound on "polarity", general accepted electron theory sez, electrons (which are "sparkies") flow from MINUS (-) to POSITIVE (+). Yer TV screen (except the new LCD's) is very POSITIVE and attracts electrons from the HOT CATHODE (-) and lites up the screen as the magnetic coils deflect the electrons in synchronized sweep. The TV tube is also very VACUUM and that also sucks the sparkies across from the cathode emitter to the faceplate attractor screen.

What does this haffta do with yer tractor sparkies??? Glad you asked. Yer tractor engine sparkies EXPLODE the mixture by jumping a gap, forcing the piston down and turns the crankshaft roundy-round. Defining EXPLOSION as high-PRESSURE event, just the opposite of vacuum ain't it.

Note: the distance from back of TV to screen front and note the sparkie gap. Yet surprizingly enuff, the kilovolts are just about the same. Wow, watta concept.

But heres the deal about sparkies, theys lazy. And once the gap ionization potential is reached, gazappo!!! no matter how HOT (kilovolts) yer sparkies are. The gap ionization potential is governed mostly by the compression pressure, engine temp, and the condition of the electrodes that form the gap. (0.025" for N-Tractors but can be as wide as one-thin dime 0.065" which will need MORE SPARKIE KILOVOLTS)

Electrons jump eaziest from SHARP un-corroded metal corner. But as a natural by-product of combustion, the HEAT of COMBUSTION MELTS the sharp corners of the electrodes and rounds them off. Making it more difficult for the sparkies to jump the gap.

Eventually, yer sparkie coil will run outta kilovolts and will start to "miss"; most notably at high speed or COLD engine at start-up time.

What does this have to do with coil polarity??? You can loose upto 25% of yer sparkie kilovolts with incorrect coil polarity. (Laws of Magnetism) It has 'nuttin' to do with battery polarity, per see. And surprizingly enuff, GROUND can be positive and negative at the same time. (long story) Don't that just blow yer mind???

The unknown thing about sparkie coil polarity, it don't hardly matter ennymore. Why? Improved sparkplug manufacturing material and design slowdown the erosion of the plug gap and even weak sparkies (remember the loss of 25% of sparkie kilovolts due to incorrect polarity?) will still sparkle yer sparkies fer long time runnin. ..... ..Dell, yer self-appointed sparkie-meister

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old 9

11-17-2007 05:55:48




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 Re: Dell polarity? in reply to Dell (WA), 11-16-2007 21:16:38  
Thanks Dell! Joe



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old 9

11-16-2007 18:56:21




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 Re: Dell polarity? in reply to old 9, 11-16-2007 17:05:43  
Hey thanks guys. You answered my question, minus 25% makes a lot of difference. I bought this tractor on the 4th of July. Been wanting to go through it this winter and check everything out. One thing at a time. Thanks again. Old 9 ( not old) Joe



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Dunk

11-16-2007 18:46:18




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 Re: Dell polarity? in reply to old 9, 11-16-2007 17:05:43  
Dell polarity?

I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure Dell is Negative.

That don't make me like him NO less.

You just deal with the static, errr not..

Oh, well, back to the drankin' bunch..



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Bruce (VA)

11-16-2007 18:25:09




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 Re: Dell polarity? in reply to old 9, 11-16-2007 17:05:43  
Tip # 33, below.



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Dean

11-16-2007 17:15:13




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 Re: Dell polarity? in reply to old 9, 11-16-2007 17:05:43  
Old:

As you have already learned, your engine will run with the coil wired in either direction.

Are you sure it was wired backwards? How it is connected to the distributor depends upon whether your tractor has the original positive ground system or has been converted to a negative ground system as is almost always done when converting to 12V.

If it is positive ground, the + terminal should be connected to the distributor primary wire. If it is negative ground, connect the - terminal to the distributor primary wire.

Dean

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old

11-16-2007 17:52:55




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 Re: Dell polarity? in reply to Dean, 11-16-2007 17:15:13  
Hay Dean its old9 that asked not OLD which is a different person LOL. Sorry but I know how it works but old9 didn't LOL



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Dean

11-17-2007 04:00:31




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 Re: Dell polarity? in reply to old, 11-16-2007 17:52:55  
Well aware of that, Old. I just didn't take the time to type all of the name.

Dean



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old 9

11-16-2007 17:26:05




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 Re: Dell polarity? in reply to Dean, 11-16-2007 17:15:13  
Yep, 6 volt very orginal. The negitave was connected to the distrubitor.



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old

11-16-2007 17:55:38




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 Re: Dell polarity? in reply to old 9, 11-16-2007 17:26:05  
If its hooked up back ward what happens is the direction the spark jumps will be 180 out. If hooked correctly the spark jumps from the center of the plug to the bale if hook up back ward it jumps from the bale to the center and is weaker because of that but still works ok



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