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Any one used a cordwood saw to rip?

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russbWA

12-06-2007 19:21:00




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Not allot more to ask/say. Seems like it should be doable? Maybe a piece of plywood with plastic laminate for a table. Ideas, pics, plans?




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Larry 8N75381

12-07-2007 08:05:12




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 Re: Any one used a cordwood saw to rip? in reply to russbWA, 12-06-2007 19:21:00  
I would suggest that you think in terms of using the shaft, blade mount/arbor, etc. as the beginning point for a "more" permanent saw mill type of setup. Then use a longer belt and the belt pulley on the "N" to drive it - from a suitable distance, maybe even at right angle to the current set up, since with belts up could create a setup that would allow the belts to turn 90 degrees - done all the time with things like mower decks on lawn/garden tractors. OR you might be able to adapt a bush hog gear box to drive the belt and drive the gear box with a PTO shaft.

Actually, you could mount the belt drive gear box to the new saw frame, use the existing belt, and a suitable PTO shaft between it and the "N". Then either a tensioner to start/stop the blade or make it fixed, with springs, that could be adjusted to hold proper tension.

Then you could build a "trolley" to run on angle iron tracks, corner of angle up with "V" notched wheel to rid on it. Make the track as long as you need, but could easily be extended.

Some "V" belts and a tensioner, like a lot of mowers, could give up a driven feed for the carriage - would have to work out the right speed for the carriage to get the "gear down" correct - so much of a fraction of an inch for one revolution of the blade, so you would not choke the blade trying to cut too much at once.

So many ideas, so little time to build them. :-)))

AND if you did it right you would not have to alter any part of the original cord wood saw. So it could be put back as it is to then do what it was intended to do, cut fire wood - get you warm twice. :-)

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russbWA

12-07-2007 12:22:28




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 Re: Any one used a cordwood saw to rip? in reply to Larry 8N75381, 12-07-2007 08:05:12  
Wow, I never even realized that pulley drive can be positioned differently. It is probably easier to keep the belt tracking when the pulley is horizontal. I don't remember seeing a Flat belt used with the pulley shaft vertical, but that would open up the angles between tractor and saw.

Anyway, better to separate the tractor 3 point and saw for ripping.

Thanks for the great ideas. Also, thanks Joe, best to look around and see what has already been done.

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old 9

12-07-2007 07:32:57




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 Re: Any one used a cordwood saw to rip? in reply to russbWA, 12-06-2007 19:21:00  
Look / ask around for someone with a sawmill. Our local show, and many I have been to set up sawmills for demostrations, Many will custom cut for you. You will have to help. The cordwood saw just seems too much.

Lots of Luck Joe



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MikeT

12-06-2007 21:41:30




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 Re: Any one used a cordwood saw to rip? in reply to russbWA, 12-06-2007 19:21:00  
Probably be pretty analogous to using a Radial Arm Saw to rip. An accident waiting to happen!



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Jimmyjack

12-06-2007 20:26:17




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 Re: Any one used a cordwood saw to rip? in reply to russbWA, 12-06-2007 19:21:00  
Why would you want to do this? It is made for cordwood. The kerf would be big and leave many splinters. Any other way I could think of would be better for ripping plywood.



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russbWA

12-06-2007 20:41:06




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 Re: Any one used a cordwood saw to rip? in reply to Jimmyjack, 12-06-2007 20:26:17  
Jim, the plywood was for a table top as in saw table top. I would use the saw to rough cut wood similar to a small scale mill operation, like the Waltons used to do on tv.



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old

12-06-2007 21:12:05




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 Re: Any one used a cordwood saw to rip? in reply to russbWA, 12-06-2007 20:41:06  
I aksed that about 5 years ago and every body said yes it could be done. IF and only if you could find the right type of blade to mount on it. Those blades where made for one thing and tring to use it as a mill might work but the cuts would be very ruff and uneven



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russbWA

12-06-2007 21:54:28




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 Re: Any one used a cordwood saw to rip? in reply to old, 12-06-2007 21:12:05  
Thanks Old. I know what you mean about the blade. I also wonder about the position of the rear tire/fender, but should be a work around. I have a bandsaw that will deal with 6 inch height of cut for when things are slabbed down.

I have (bandsaw) cut some veneer for laminating and particularly for Ping Pong paddles (thats a whole nuther discussion). So many ideas, so little time.

Ideally a trolley to make a controlled pass to carry the log blank past the blade, maybe excessive. I think a "shooter board" set up riding on a table top and fence would be practical, for some limited work. A problem first cut would be to half a log length ways. Once that is done things get simpler to handle.....

Having to cut in from both sides to reach the center of a rip presents an orientation problem. Perhaps a "Shooter Box" with some method to flip end for end, thus keeping the kerfs in the same plane....

An N has plenty of power for a 30 inch blade, thats for sure.

Sorry for the rant, I have been thinking about the general subject for years. I will try a search in the morning. Thanks again, Old and Jim.

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36 coupe

12-07-2007 03:30:32




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 Re: Any one used a cordwood saw to rip? in reply to russbWA, 12-06-2007 21:54:28  
The kick back power of a cordwood saw would be high.Cordwood saws need a 5 degree face and top bevel.Rip saws have no bevel.Buy a band mill for 5 grand and saw all the lumber you want.It took a while to save up the money but I bought my mill 5 years ago.I have sawed out large timbers with just a chain saw but sawing boards will take too much time.



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