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OT - opinions on outdoor wood boilers

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Ron-Mo

12-11-2007 09:25:18




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I usually get good info here on my tractors so why not throw this subject out. I have been looking hard at buying an outdoor wood furnace/boiler to supplement my gas furnace. I pretty much have it narrowed to either a Hardy, or a HeatmasterSS 5000. I see small advantages for both, but from opinions I have gathered so far the main advantage is efficiency on the Heatmaster. The Hardy appears to be a good unit, and been around a long time, but uses quit a bit more wood , but is simple (simple is often better). The Heatmaster (from what I gather) uses about half the wood which is a significant factor as I do not have as much time to cut the wood, and my supply is not a prevalent as some. I looked at Central Boiler and started finding evidence of corrosion problems with some rusting through very early in life on the non-stainless models. I went and watched a Heatmaster running and was fairly impressed. The Heatmaster uses a round stainless firebox, variable speed draft inducer, and what appears a good design to help heat the water. Anyone have either of these and opinions good or bad. I was nearly sold on the Hardy, until I saw the Heatmaster and now I am leaning the other way fairly hard.

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Bob Jones

12-12-2007 05:09:37




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 Re: OT - opinions on outdoor wood boilers in reply to Ron-Mo, 12-11-2007 09:25:18  
I have been using a Taylor Outdoor wood furnace since 1994, 7 days a week 24 hours a day, and love it. This summer I had to have a new fire box bottem welded in and had to replace the hotwater heater coil. It cost me about 800 total. By my figures the unit saves me about 1K in heating and hotwater electric bills annually. All the mess is outside and their is no house fire risk. If you can pick up the log then it doesn't have to be split and you can burn green or seasoned wood. If you are gonna burn wood then this is the way to go.

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ButtonRock

12-12-2007 01:52:40




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 Re: OT - opinions on outdoor wood boilers in reply to Ron-Mo, 12-11-2007 09:25:18  
I have been running a woodmaster for 5 yrs. 3 yrs 24/365 and burn 14 cords a year. Watch out for the stainless models. Sometimes they are as much as half the thickness of the steel models. Every once in a while we all bounce a log off the back of the firebox and would hate to do that with 1/8 inch stainless plate. Seasoned wood creates much less smoke than green and produces much more heat. as long as you rotate the ashes you should not have corrosion worries,should be done once per day. And if you shut down in the summer ,coat the firebox with oil to stop the corrosion. Here in connecticut you must be at least 200 feet from your neighbor. If they still don't like the smoke they can sue you for quality of life and have you put on a higher stack or shut down completely. I love mine, the 73 degrees in the house,and the cutting of wood, and no heating oil bills. hope it helps

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TimW(PA)

12-11-2007 18:05:22




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 Re: OT - opinions on outdoor wood boilers in reply to Ron-Mo, 12-11-2007 09:25:18  
My BIL has a HARDY. He just loves it. But, that thing is HUNGRY! He has 50 acres of woods so it don't bother him much. The big problem with the way those are designed, is, that the water jacket directly surrounds the firebox. That inherently keeps the temp of the fire below optimal combustion temps, so a lot of the combustible gasses go right out the chimney which ='s low efficiency....thus, it's hungry. Plus while it is not calling for heat it sits there smoking up a storm which in some cases make your neighbors hate you. So if you got lots of cheap wood and no neighbors nearby it works great. If you have to buy and haul all your wood and have close neighbors downwind you may want to reconsider....My .02 cent....Hope it helps.....Tim

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Bob Harvey

12-11-2007 14:46:11




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 Re: OT - opinions on outdoor wood boilers in reply to Ron-Mo, 12-11-2007 09:25:18  
I understand the 'outdoor wood boiler' concept, but have trouble figuring out why one woudn't just install a new wood heater IN the house (they make them with water heating coils) Heck, you're packing the firewood anyway...if you have an 'airtight' IN the house-- No loss of heat. 2. Works for cooking and stuff when the power goes out.



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maplehillfrm,pat

12-11-2007 19:40:43




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 Re: OT - opinions on outdoor wood boilers in reply to Bob Harvey, 12-11-2007 14:46:11  
I am with ron on this one, I have heated for years with an indoor woodstove, and when I put in the new house,,I went with an outside wood furnace,, no more smoke and dust in the house, bark,mess,bugs,mud,snow,waking up in the middle of the night to load it,,

now everything is outside, load it twice a day,no mess in the house, I love it, I dont have any close neighbors so I dont worry about the smoke in the air,, I have a rental in town andthere are 2 people who have them one next door and one across the road, and I know they annoy the neighbors,, but so would a regular woodstove I believe,,

I would never go back to an inside wood stove, although I do miss the right now heat of it, so I had to install a gas powered "woodstove" in theliving room for effect,, pat

not sure I can answer on your choice,, mine is a johnson,, I have had it 3 years now and no trouble, pat

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Ron-MO

12-11-2007 16:11:01




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 Re: OT - opinions on outdoor wood boilers in reply to Bob Harvey, 12-11-2007 14:46:11  
I guess I grew up in a house where we heated solely with wood. Three words come to mind....mess, dust, and smoke. Also, I would also have the expense of installing a flue. Each to his own, but I will leave the mess outside.



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Tom N MS

12-11-2007 18:19:44




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 Re: OT - opinions on outdoor wood boilers in reply to Ron-MO, 12-11-2007 16:11:01  
Me too...Got a nice, big fireplace. Never use it because of the mess, wagging wood inside just somehow don't make sense to me.



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db in mi

12-12-2007 13:22:34




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 Re: OT - opinions on outdoor wood boilers in reply to Tom N MS, 12-11-2007 18:19:44  
We are getting ready to build a new house after ours burnt down and we are thinking of putting the wood burner in the garage and having it ducted thru the house furnace.That way we dont have the mess in the house,it is confined to the garage and at the same time we would keep the garage heated also. And you don't have to go half way across your property to load it.



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Tom N MS

12-12-2007 14:44:51




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 Re: OT - opinions on outdoor wood boilers in reply to db in mi, 12-12-2007 13:22:34  
I like that plan...Wish I had a setup like that..



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