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Alan Wilmott

12-11-2007 17:06:32




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Can an hydraulic top link be used on an 8n?




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GB in MT.

12-12-2007 07:41:03




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 Re: hydraulic top link for 8n in reply to Joe in MI, 12-11-2007 17:06:32  


Adding to what SouNdguy just said; I too see what Dell was eluding to!!

Try this, think of the hydrolic toplink being like a Hydrolic cylinder used on a backhoe rear lift pod. The harder the hydolics is applied to the pod to the ground, the farther up the rear tire comes off the ground.

Backhoe operators, do not need a tractor jack to change tires. There is one built in on each side of the attachment.

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FlyN2low

12-12-2007 05:34:31




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 Re: hydraulic top link for 8n in reply to Alan Wilmott, 12-11-2007 17:06:32  
Yes there is. Jiffyhitch has a hydraulic top link with its own hand pump.

Scroll down to the bottom of the page.



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Dean

12-12-2007 03:17:30




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 Re: hydraulic top link for 8n in reply to Alan Wilmott, 12-11-2007 17:06:32  
Alan:

Not easily.

Your 8N does not have a hydraulic remote outlet to operate the hydraulic top link.

The common, inexpensive methods of providing a hydraulic outlet on an 8N interfere with the operation of the lift, which you will no doubt want to use at the same time as the top link.

Dean



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Sean (TX)

12-11-2007 18:00:45




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 Re: hydraulic top link for 8n in reply to Josh Vaughan, 12-11-2007 17:06:32  
What are you going to use it for? I thought one might come in handy on a dirt scoop.



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Paul Thicke

12-11-2007 21:22:17




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 Re: hydraulic top link for 8n in reply to Sean (TX), 12-11-2007 18:00:45  
I also think that a hydraulic top link would be excellent for a scoop. You could control the angle of the cut while filling and then tilt it back so that the dirt doesn't fall out while you transport it.



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Dell (WA)

12-11-2007 17:44:18




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 Re: hydraulic top link for 8n in reply to Alan Wilmott, 12-11-2007 17:06:32  
Alan..... ...you know what a hydraulic top-link will do to your rear tires? It will LIFT'em and you'll loose TRACTION. Is that what you want? The turn-buckle toplink is just fine. Then you use yer hy-troll lever by yer right hip to control depth or height. Simple, eh?..... ...Dell



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Jim Hunt

12-12-2007 03:44:49




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 Re: hydraulic top link for 8n in reply to Dell (WA), 12-11-2007 17:44:18  
>> you know what a hydraulic top-link will do to your rear tires? It will LIFT'em and you'll loose TRACTION. <<

Would you mind explaining to all us dummies out here how that could possibly happen? I can see where the top link would adjust the pitch of your implement, but cannot understand how that affects traction????

What is it that I don't understand here, guru?



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Dean

12-12-2007 09:38:25




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 Re: hydraulic top link for 8n in reply to Jim Hunt, 12-12-2007 03:44:49  
Bingo:

The purpose of an adjustable top link, hydraulic or otherwise, is to adjust the angle of a ground engaging implement.

The purpose is not to provide down pressure.

Dean



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soundguy

12-12-2007 06:50:13




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 Re: hydraulic top link for 8n in reply to Jim Hunt, 12-12-2007 03:44:49  
I'm staying out of the why / why not issue... just making a casual observation based on geometry.... and I can see what Dell is saying.

Think of a triangle when you look at your 3pt hitch.. the implement can spin fore or aft on the bottom arms/pins as the toplink gets shorter or longer... If the implement is long in the rear, then it will contact ground at some point. if you have enough adjustment in the toplink to keep going, I can see where you would unload the rear wheels, as load is transfered to the rear of the implement. ( take a mower for instance.. it's long.. ). normally, with correct geometry, an implement will lift and swing up on the toplink and lower link swivels.. however with a long exagerated toplink.. you change the geometery and can no longer swing up ( assuming the implement is not somehow flexible.. etc. )without tipping the implement back/down at the rear of it, due to the long toplink forcing the topik connection further back as the lift travels up..... IE. the more you try to swing up, the more the rear end of the implement is pushed down, due to the action of the toplink pushing back on the toplink mount if you tried to raise the 3pt.

Ever notice if you have an implement on your 3pt.. say.. like a conce spreader... if you have the toplink too short, when you lift the spreader it is tipped like it is going to dump it's load over onthe back of the N.. or if set too long as you lift, it tips back? Now take that to the extreme, with a long extendable toplink, and a long flat implement...mind you this is an extreme example.. etc. While some top-n-tilt may be ok with a back blade that is real close up to the tractor.. i don't think it will be as usefull for things like disc or plows / cultivators.. etc.. except for just bragging rights to own it. I see lots of CUT's that have hyd toplink and side link combinations that do grading and landscaping work.. etc..

Soundguy

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Jim.UT

12-11-2007 19:16:13




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 Re: hydraulic top link for 8n in reply to Dell (WA), 12-11-2007 17:44:18  
A hydraulic toplink would be really handy with some implements. I've often wished I had the cash for a aux hyd valve for my 850 so I could use a hydraulic toplink on the boompole or pallet forks. Might come in handy with the dirt scoop, too.



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Dean

12-12-2007 03:14:43




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 Re: hydraulic top link for 8n in reply to Jim.UT, 12-11-2007 19:16:13  
I agree, Jim.

I'm in the market for one to use with my box blade, slip scoop and boom pole.

Dean



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Sean (TX)

12-11-2007 17:32:10




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 Re: hydraulic top link for 8n in reply to Josh Vaughan, 12-11-2007 17:06:32  
Need to get you a live thang Link



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Jack - Illinois

12-11-2007 17:24:36




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 Re: hydraulic top link for 8n in reply to Alan Wilmott, 12-11-2007 17:06:32  
Not without getting and auxillary hydraulic system. N hydraulics are only single action and you must tie down the lift arms to tap off of the system. You could do that but then you would have not lift and I don't think that is what you are after



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