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OT- getting a bead set on a tire

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redtailwis

12-16-2007 09:52:06




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I have a Bobcat tire that I cant get the bead set on. (is tubeless obviously). I tried a cable round the middle , but still wouldnt set. Any tricks anyone knows? I havent used any water/soap as it is about 15 deg today and didnt think that would be a good idea.Any help is appreciated.




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ericlb

12-16-2007 15:33:10




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 Re: OT- getting a bead set on a tire in reply to redtailwis, 12-16-2007 09:52:06  
we use a device called a "cheeta" it is like a air tank with a large butterfly valve on it it hooks on the rim and blowes all the air into the tire at one time seating the bead, most tire shops have one, the starting fluid trick is the only other way to do it, but if youve never done it i would find somebody who has, sometimes the safety police will have to look the other way while the men get the job done

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Jerry9N

12-16-2007 14:43:03




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 Re: OT- getting a bead set on a tire in reply to redtailwis, 12-16-2007 09:52:06  
I've had pretty good luck using a ratcheting nylon tie-down strap around the middle. I've had the best luck at my local tire store, and the coffee is indeed free!

Merry Christmas!

Jerry.



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ZANE

12-16-2007 12:23:39




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 Re: OT- getting a bead set on a tire in reply to redtailwis, 12-16-2007 09:52:06  
Stand the tire and wheel up againt something.

Spray a good dose of starting fluid into the gap between the tire and the rim.

Let the spray come down to the ground and make a trail to the tire about a foot long.

Throw a match into the trail and be prepared to jump out of your skin when it goes off. It will be almost inflated too.

Disclaimer. Don't do this at home!

Zane



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Duner Wi

12-16-2007 19:41:25




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 Re: OT- getting a bead set on a tire in reply to ZANE, 12-16-2007 12:23:39  
About 30 years ago when tubeless were getting popular for big trucks the starting fluid trick was SOP for the tire guy. Does not take much start fluid as I remember.



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Lumpy

12-16-2007 18:45:00




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 Re: OT- getting a bead set on a tire in reply to ZANE, 12-16-2007 12:23:39  
Ha Ha!!! Zane, I'm laughing my butt off reading your response. Having a flash back to the first time I experienced this. My B.I.L. was putting new 24.5x32's on the pull'in tractor and the starting fluid trick is about the only way to do this without all the fancy equipement. He did exactly as you said BUT, used a burning shop rag on a 8' long stick as the igniter. His mom was there holding the stick and when he touched that off... like you said I jumped out of my skin.... and mom just about pi$$ed her self laughing at me. Since then we have done combine tires and several sets of pull'in tires. One time I saw The Grave Digger monster truck crew do this at a show on one of those big meats and it worked.

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john hunt

12-16-2007 11:33:00




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 Re: OT- getting a bead set on a tire in reply to redtailwis, 12-16-2007 09:52:06  
take to a tire to a shop have them do it and have a cup of coffee on them while you wait are you have them come out fix it .....



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thomas seaman

12-16-2007 10:26:47




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 Re: OT- getting a bead set on a tire in reply to redtailwis, 12-16-2007 09:52:06  
try useing liquid soap around the beads and a ratchet strap around the center remve the valvecore if that dosent work i use starting fluid and a match be careful



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Den N Ms

12-16-2007 10:33:44




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 Re: OT- getting a bead set on a tire in reply to thomas seaman, 12-16-2007 10:26:47  
I would not tell anyone to use starting fluid and a match.That has never done that before ,dangerous and they could get hurt!



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JMOR

12-16-2007 11:11:00




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 Re: OT- getting a bead set on a tire in reply to Den N Ms, 12-16-2007 10:33:44  
I wouldn't tell them to either, but if they do, they should use a rag wired to a long stick as the "match"!



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corvetteguy

12-16-2007 10:00:56




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 Re: OT- getting a bead set on a tire in reply to redtailwis, 12-16-2007 09:52:06  
1) Warm the tire up first...
2) Set the back bead (normal)
3) Flip tire around so the open bead is facing down.
4) use gravity to help pull down the open bead.
5) Use a friend to help pull down the tire uniformly using a locking air filler keeping the air going into the tire.
6) If all else fails use a hand full of grease coat the open bead to make an air seal.



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Den N Ms

12-16-2007 09:58:13




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 Re: OT- getting a bead set on a tire in reply to redtailwis, 12-16-2007 09:52:06  
redtailwis,Have you tried removing the valve core when trying to air it up?



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redtailwis

12-16-2007 10:07:24




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 Re: OT- getting a bead set on a tire in reply to Den N Ms, 12-16-2007 09:58:13  
No i havent but will try that. Whats a lockign air filler ?

Thanks



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old

12-16-2007 11:33:04




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 Re: OT- getting a bead set on a tire in reply to redtailwis, 12-16-2007 10:07:24  
Tires places use a stuff called murphys its sort of a grease like stuff that fills in the gaps till the tire is aired up. Its a thick soap type of stuff. Starter fluid does work also but if you don't know what your doing don't do it or you can loose your head. Grease also works but isn't good for the rubber but as I said it does work. BTDT on all 3 things I have said. They also make a tank that will do it for you but that would cost you at least $150 for one. That tank has a big end piece that when you open the valve you get every thing that tank has init in about a nano second

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Bob

12-16-2007 10:48:30




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 Re: OT- getting a bead set on a tire in reply to redtailwis, 12-16-2007 10:07:24  
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