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Anvilheadtexas

01-01-2008 19:58:11

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Sorry guys, this is not N related, but most of you all seem to know a thing or two about other subjects . This heavy metal mill looking thing sits in my barn. It has sat there since I bought my land two years ago. Knowing that I have been bitten by the tractor bug, my dad gave me a stack of old Gas Engine the other day and I saw something that looked like this object in one of the issues....it was a sugarcane mill. Is this what sits in my barn - a mill of some sort? I do not believe sugarcane was ever grown in Deep East Tx? There is writing - in big letters - but my older eyes and my nephews younger eyes could not make it out...we could tell that it said "St. Louis" so we are concluding this object was made in St Louis. Any help would be appreciated.

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RWRogers

01-04-2008 09:40:55

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to Anvilheadtexas, 01-01-2008 19:58:11

There is a group that grows and grinds sorghum north of Waco, Texas:
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There is a folk festival in Henderson, Texas that grinds sorghum:
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George Ranch Historical Park, south of Richmond,Texas, grinds sugar cane at their Texian Market Days event in Oct. They didn"t have any cane this past year and didn"t grind. They do have cane planted for next year's event.

http://www.georgeranch.org/annual-events/TMD/

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lonestarjeff

01-03-2008 20:08:07

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to Anvilheadtexas, 01-01-2008 19:58:11

Anvil...our place is 15 miles NW of Paris, TX. My Grandad grew up on the place & later grew sugar cane as a cash crop. The mill(like yours)was turned by mules & owned by another farmer about a mile away. My Dad always told me how he loved going to the mill.

Jeff

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rd99

01-02-2008 18:38:00

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to Mark Pearce, 01-01-2008 19:58:11

This one might look a little like your photo if yours is missing some equipment:

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Anvilheadtexas

01-02-2008 19:09:28

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to rd99, 01-02-2008 18:38:00

This looks exactly like the one in my barn - and yes, there is some missing pieces to mine.

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rd99

01-02-2008 18:35:22

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to Anvilheadtexas, 01-01-2008 19:58:11

I can't tell much from that photo.

Here's a site that has other photos of cane grinding equipment. Some of it looks similar.

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S Russell (TX)

01-02-2008 18:17:36

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to Anvilheadtexas, 01-01-2008 19:58:11

My mother spoke of the sorghum that was pressed/ milled on their farm in Anderson County Texas (near Palestine) when she was young. I live in the SugarLand area. The Imperial plant ceased packaging sugar about 2 years ago. (No mfg process now at all). Back in the 1800's one of the lower prison farms was used as the labor source for a plantation producing sugr cane and sugar refinery. It was near present day Lake Jackson, TX.

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TonyS

01-02-2008 17:00:08

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to Anvilheadtexas, 01-01-2008 19:58:11

That appears to a 3 roller vertical cane mill. It will have 1 large roller and 2 smaller ones. The smaller rollers are adjustable. The shaft coming out of the top are usually tapered on all 4 sides. This is for a T-shape part that a long pole is attached to, for the livestock to turn. I have a #1 Kentucky Cane Mill that was made in St. Louis. Several different Mills were produced there. Also it does not matter about the cane, be it surgar cane or soughum cane.

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Anvilheadtexas

01-02-2008 12:33:02

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to Anvilheadtexas, 01-01-2008 19:58:11

Zane - exactly there are what appears to be three rollers in the middle of this thing.

Ken(Ark) - my place is sort of far from Sugarland (Sugarland is not Deep East Tx)and is about 2.5 hours south of "the mill"

Could sugar cane or sorgum been grown on this land - maybe, but everyone tells me it was cotton and hay and the old hay rakes sitting in the brush line seem to indicate that.

Other than sitting in a barn, does anyone know of anyone who would have interest in owning a sugar cane/sorgum mill?

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RWRogers

01-05-2008 04:59:37

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to Anvilheadtexas, 01-02-2008 12:33:02

If the cane mill is still looking for a home, I've been looking for one to restore and use. I live near Richmond, Texas, so am not that far away.

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Bruce (VA)

01-02-2008 07:39:54

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to Anvilheadtexas, 01-01-2008 19:58:11

I've made a lot of sorghum molasses, but I've never made syrup out of sugar cane. It could be what we in this part of VA call a sorghum mill; two rollers like a wringer washer powered by a mule. Later models (and some old converted models) were converted to a horizontal drive shaft & belt powered off of a tractor PTO or a hit & miss engine. The last batch of molasses we made was "N powered"! The process for cooking sorghum molasses is just as Zane describes below. And, depending on the sorghum & soil conditions, it can turn out black, like sugar cane molasses, or light brown. Best stuff you will ever eat on corn bread or biscuits!

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Ken(Ark)

01-02-2008 07:32:49

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to Anvilheadtexas, 01-01-2008 19:58:11

"I do not believe sugarcane was ever grown in Deep East Tx"

It was a big cash crop in East Texas once upon a time.

Sugarland Texas

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Lance in Brenham, TX

01-03-2008 09:03:13

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to Ken(Ark), 01-02-2008 07:32:49

Yep. My dad worked in the plant in Sugarland while waiting to enter the Army around 1950 or so.

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ZANE

01-02-2008 06:32:21

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to Anvilheadtexas, 01-01-2008 19:58:11

I think it is a cane mill. There are still a few around this part of AL. There was a shaft that came up above themill about two or three feet and held a bracket to receive a pole. The pole was about 10 feet long and a mule or horse pulled the pole around and around the mill to power it. The cane was squeezed between rollers to render the juice form the cane then it was piped into the cane mill pan where it was cooked down to syrup. It takes a special knowledge and skill to cook the syrup without ruining it by either burning or scorching it or making it too thin. The froth that comes to the top of the pan has to be continously skimmed off in order to make good syrup.

Zane

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Bruce (VA)

01-02-2008 07:41:27

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to ZANE, 01-02-2008 06:32:21

Zane, are you talking about sugar cane or sorghum cane? This description sounds exactly like how we make sorghum molasses here in VA.

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ZANE

01-02-2008 17:51:17

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-02-2008 07:41:27

Sorgum cane. We don't raise any sugar cane in AL to my knowledge.

There are still a few old fashioned Sorgum mills around here that are mostly for show but some do sell the serup made in them. Some good. Some not so good!
Zane

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JMOR

01-02-2008 01:28:19

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to Anvilheadtexas, 01-01-2008 19:58:11

Well, Emory certainly isn't 'deep' east Texas, some would not even put it in east Tx, but there was a man named Stallings that grew the cane, ran the mill, cooked the syrup there for many years. In his operation the cane was run thru something more like rollers to crush it vs any kind of grinding. Think of old ringer washing machine or hay conditioner as used with sudan.

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Ken(Ark)

01-02-2008 15:13:33

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Re: Help me identify this odd looking metal object (not N) in reply to JMOR, 01-02-2008 01:28:19

Hers a pic I found of a Sugar Mill.
Here In Arkansas we call it sorghum but it grows this far north for sure .

I am thinking the mill is for corn or some form of cottonseed grinder . Back in the day if a human couldn't eat it the cows would . I'm still guessing . If it was for making white lightin , dunk will surly be able to let us know , he he .

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