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Should I use draft when shifting snow?

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Britcheflee

01-13-2008 13:56:57

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We are still here after a pretty severe storm in N CA- actually, for me the most powerful wind storm I have ever experienced - pretty dang scary as even the big trees and oak tree by the house were flapping around like crazy - lost power and the roofing material on the hen house - no power for 3 days but we have a generator so no too bad.

anyway, we did get some snow but nothing deep. I have the 8N set up with the blade in case we actually get some deep snow. I know you can set the small lever on the side up by the seat to 'draft' - is that it? Where the blade, plow etc just rests on the ground and moves up and down with the terrain. If I were to use it on the driveway would this be the best setting to use to ensure I dont rip up the blacktop?

any snow plowing advice?

Worst part about the storm was that we had the leaves, twigs etc all raked up and the place looking good.....what a mess it left behind. Thankfully no trees down or damage.

Lee

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redleg

01-14-2008 17:38:11

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Re: Should I use draft when shifting snow? in reply to Britcheflee, 01-13-2008 13:56:57

I have a mile and a half of single lane to plow in northern michigan. Most of the heavy moveing is done with my blade reversed. I either drive in reverse with the 7 ft blade angled so the drive wheel gets a good clear bite, or I can pull with the blade reversed, at an angle and straddle the high banks. I get good traction with chains and filled tires, but with the blade turned, it still moves big snow without getting hung up and risking damage.

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Britcheflee

01-14-2008 07:52:29

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Re: Should I use draft when shifting snow? in reply to JD Ga, 01-13-2008 13:56:57

Thanks for all your good advice,

Now it will be a race between me and my father in law to get to the snow if and when it does come down.

My father in law has a snow blower which has been used once since he bought it some years ago now - each time it threatens snow he is ready to fire it up and use it to justify the purchase - he has pictures of snow at least 5 ft deep or more from 30 years ago but we have not had more than a foot since I have been here and that has been over 10 years now.

Man, he is going to be annoyed if I get the 8N fired up and clear that driveway before him if it snows :twisted:
Lee

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Jason McL

01-13-2008 17:38:30

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Re: Should I use draft when shifting snow? in reply to Britcheflee, 01-13-2008 13:56:57

I use a 2N for plowing snow at my place and it doesn,t have postion control. My 8N is under going a restoration ,so it won,t see snow ever again. The 8N is a FAR better snow plower. Always used postion control,much more blade control. Plus I miss the brakes being on one side.

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ZANE

01-13-2008 18:22:34

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Re: Should I use draft when shifting snow? in reply to Jason McL, 01-13-2008 17:38:30

I make a device for adding position control to the 9N/2N and Ferguson tractors.

Actually is better at holding a given position or height than that of the 8N.

If in doubt just ask the board memebers here.

See the link below for it and other of my Thangs.

Zane

ZANE THANG N STUFF

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Dunk

01-13-2008 18:41:14

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Re: Should I use draft when shifting snow? in reply to ZANE, 01-13-2008 18:22:34

Did you forgit the plug about the "live thang"?

Ell, for about the same price, as you have in your 9N, 2N, you can have position control, AND live hydro.

Ifn' you don't believe me, just ask Zane.

Oh, yeah, you screwed up the link.

Here it is.

Zane Thang

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ZANE

01-14-2008 09:09:18

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Re: Should I use draft when shifting snow? in reply to Dunk, 01-13-2008 18:41:14

Thanks Dunk for clearing that up!

I have no idea what happened to the link URL?????

I called myself copying and pasting it as usual.

Senior moment!

Zane

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Eddy Guerra

01-13-2008 17:31:18

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Re: Should I use draft when shifting snow? in reply to Britcheflee, 01-13-2008 13:56:57

Man you guys must have "STP" or something. I was just wondering about that! It seems as though if I wait long enough, someone always aks the question that is on my mind. Thanks for "ALL" the INFO.
Eddy

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Dunk

01-13-2008 16:50:11

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Re: Should I use draft when shifting snow? in reply to Britcheflee, 01-13-2008 13:56:57

I'm happy to see that Paul brought up the length of the top link.

That makes a big difference in the "angle of the dangle" (wasn't Hobo talking about that the other night??).

You can shorten it, and kinda just scrape over the top.

Or lengthen it and grab a blade full.

Place in between can be a Blessing.

Also the angle of the blade, can contribute to this fact.

Also then the adjustable lift leveler can can contribute to helping accomplish what you are after.

I would always use position control.

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Paul in MN

01-13-2008 16:08:14

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Re: Should I use draft when shifting snow? in reply to Britcheflee, 01-13-2008 13:56:57

Lee,

The position control (lever vertical) is the correct way to plow snow. The draft control makes the blade move is a bit of jerky unpredictable manner. The blade is quite lite and the usual pull of snow is very lite compared to the pull required for plowing with the 2 bottom dirt plow. Position control allows YOU to control the blade especially when close to a car or building and not have it unexpectedly move on you. This will reduce (eliminate) the damage you may do to possibly expensive stuff. Remember the 8N only has lift, it does not have power down so the blade will follow the ground easily. I really prefer to plow snow over frozen ground so that I am not digging up the gravel. If your ground is not frozen, you could make a pair of "shoes" or skids that are on the back side of the blade to help keep it from digging into the soft ground.

If your top link is set short your blade vertical angle will not dig much gravel. If the top link is set long, the blade is more agressive in digging. If the ground is frozen, the long top link will help you clean the ice off better.

I would not push backwards with the blade unless you have sway bars that hook up below the fender bolts at the outer ends of the rear axle. It is possible to bend or break the lower lift arms when pushing backwards without the sway bars.

If you are pulling or pushing a good load of heavy snow with the rear blade and you begin to lose traction, just pull the hydraulic lift lever up a bit to raise the blade slightly. This transfers some of the load weight onto the rear tires and improves traction so you can keep going.

Have fuN !

Paul in MN
42 years of snowplowing

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Gaspump

01-13-2008 14:30:47

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Re: Should I use draft when shifting snow? in reply to Britcheflee, 01-13-2008 13:56:57

Draft control is intended for and best used only when constant draft (depth) is needed as in plowing, discing and cultivation. Position control will hold the implement in your case blade in a constant position.

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2fordsmike

01-13-2008 14:08:50

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Re: Should I use draft when shifting snow? in reply to Britcheflee, 01-13-2008 13:56:57

The other choice is Position Control and that would be my preferred sitting. I"d prefer Position Control particularly when pushing snow in reverse, but I have not done much of either in a long time. When going forward the setting may not make much difference. Try em both. I also use stablizer bars on both sides when using a blade, and I am a little particular about the length of the top link so that it doesn"t want to dig in too much on gravel. Mike-Iowa

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