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Orig. TSX33 Marvel/Schebler Carb ???

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GB in MT.

02-09-2008 08:37:27

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Alright guys;..... Need some input here from guys in the know!!!!!

Is this an original 1940, carb.?? or is there actually no way of knowing. This carb. is off a family owned, since manufacture, !940 9N, (as far as I know)!!!??

I'm thinking that the carb. has been on the orig. "N" since it was new, and Due to the markings on the carb. body, and the wear of certain area's of the cast. that it may be the same carb. that was installed on the tractor, when new.!!!???

What do you think??? Am I just pickin' at straws here????

First pic.. is what it looked like when my friend from this N-Board sent it to me for overhaul. Pretty crusty and needs new gut's.

Next two pix. are showing carb. body, after completion of overhaul.

Note the cast #'s and Name placement on the carb.
I have never had the opportunity to do a complete over haul on a carb, that has such casting. It was a nostalgect trip for me.

Let me know what ya think!!!???

Gary :?: :roll: :)

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GB in MT.

02-10-2008 04:50:33

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Re: Orig. TSX33 Marvel/Schebler Carb ??? in reply to Gary Pulkka, 02-09-2008 08:37:27

Jon;

Man, have I got news for you..... .That's my shop towel, and she can't use it!!!!! :lol: Unless she wants to!!!! He He.!!

I buy those towels by the dozen at Price Co., for the shop. They are cheap enough to throw away if they get greasy or too dirty to wash.

And besides, if I screw up and use the wrong things around here, and she throws a fit,..... ..I just get right up off the floor and appologize!!!!! :lol:
Good to hear from ya, for a change, Jon!!!!

Gary :)

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jon

02-09-2008 21:27:27

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Re: Orig. TSX33 Marvel/Schebler Carb ??? in reply to GB in MT., 02-09-2008 08:37:27

Looks good Gary but Momma's gonna kick your hind end if you get her towel dirty! :wink:

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GB in MT.

02-09-2008 19:50:46

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Re: Orig. TSX33 Marvel/Schebler Carb ??? in reply to Osweld, 02-09-2008 08:37:27

First off guys, Thanks for all the nice replies to this subject.

And a personnal thanks to H.P., for setting me straight on the family ownership of the "N".

The talk about the carb. bowl drain plug, surprised me a little. I saw this type installed on another member's carb., on this forum, and decided I would , from then on, install these petcocks on every carb I did, unless the owner did not want it. It is a personnal thing, but very handy not to have to carry a wrench in your hip pocket to drain the fuel, for what ever reason.

I really enjoy doing these carb's, but I am not going to make a buis. out of it. The personnal aspect of doing these carb's for people is more important to me. I just really like to help people get things done that they may not feel good about doing by themselves.

Again thanks for the replies. I enjoyed them.

Gary :)

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Sean (TX)

02-09-2008 15:48:04

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Re: Orig. TSX33 Marvel/Schebler Carb ??? in reply to Tom N MS, 02-09-2008 08:37:27

I think I read once that the carb's with a tag on them where Gary's says TSX-33 are a factory rebuilt job. That one must have been rebuilt by the owner. How wore out was the throttle shaft? I seen one where they hookup to the linkage the ball was all wore out :lol: That one never received a rebuild :lol:

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Dan in CO

02-09-2008 14:32:50

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Re: Orig. TSX33 Marvel/Schebler Carb ??? in reply to Bill M from Illinois, 02-09-2008 08:37:27

I'll just bet Gary is reading this now with steam shooting out of his ears. All this talk about his carbs and he will be swamped with requests. I don't think he wants to go into the business, but he sure does a great job on them.

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high pockets

02-09-2008 14:27:15

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Re: Orig. TSX33 Marvel/Schebler Carb ??? in reply to GB in MT., 02-09-2008 08:37:27

dan in co said: High Pockets:

Yours is not the first one.

I knew mine wasn't the first. :) I'd seen a thread a while back about him doing a carb; yours I believe. That's when I started talkin to him about maybe doing mine. I'm dang glad I asked him about it.

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high pockets

02-09-2008 13:54:22

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Re: Orig. TSX33 Marvel/Schebler Carb ??? in reply to GB in MT., 02-09-2008 08:37:27

First I want to give a :!: :!: HUGE :!: :!: thanks to Gary.
That's my carb he's looking for info on; and at the same time it's showing off his handiwork pretty good too. I'm more than pleased with the outcome.

GB in MT. said: This carb. is off a family owned, since manufacture, !940 9N, (as far as I know)!!!??

From what I understand, Granpa was the 2nd owner. He'd had it as long as I can remember though.

As for the petcock; that was Gary's idea, and a very handy one at that imho. No need for a wrench or tool of any kind to check fuel flow or to drain the carb. I think it's a nifty idea. Not sure where the idea came from; but I'm thankful he put it in.

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dan in co

02-09-2008 14:18:00

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Re: Orig. TSX33 Marvel/Schebler Carb ??? in reply to high pockets, 02-09-2008 13:54:22

High Pockets:

Yours is not the first one. Here is a picture of the first Marvel / Schebler TSX-GB that Gary did for me. As you can see it has the same features�, including the petcock instead of a plug. I find it very useful for checking fuel flow and cleaning. I now have a smooth running 2N even with low compression.

Gary builds great carbs!

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Jerry/MT

02-09-2008 10:39:02

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Re: Orig. TSX33 Marvel/Schebler Carb ??? in reply to GB in MT., 02-09-2008 08:37:27

Gary, I never saw one with the petcock on the bowl drain. The ones I"m familiar with had a plug, but I like that petcock. You don"t need a wrench to check for fuel flow or to just drain the bowl. Is that one of your inovations?

The TSX carb"s I am familiar with have a brass plate riveted to the boss on the carb air inlet with the model number stamped on it.(In the case of the TO-30, it"s TSX 458.)
Your picture doen"t show a hole for a rivet so that must be how they marked them at the time this carb was manufactured. I wonder if this was made during WWII when Brass was a critical material and wasn"t used for things like carb ID?

My TO-30 was made in "54, well after that time period.

P.S. You do nice work!

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Gaspump

02-10-2008 17:17:25

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Re: Orig. TSX33 Marvel/Schebler Carb ??? in reply to Jerry/MT, 02-09-2008 10:39:02

The rivited on brass tag is in all most all cases was a rebuilders tag. It will carry the carb model, last two digits of the year and the month of rebuild. Later N original carbs had an aluminum tag fastened on by a bowl attaching screw with model, P/N & date, they broke off very easily and few remain.

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Dan in CO

02-09-2008 09:46:38

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Re: Orig. TSX33 Marvel/Schebler Carb ??? in reply to GB in MT., 02-09-2008 08:37:27

Gary;

No expert here, but I would say that if it looks like a duck�

If TSX 33 is what they installed at the factory on a 1940 9N, and this one clearly says TSX 33, I think you are looking at the original if not one that is identical to original.

Maybe someone that is a true expert or guru (with at least 10,000 posts) can shed some light on this.

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Gaspump

02-09-2008 09:18:53

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Re: Orig. TSX33 Marvel/Schebler Carb ??? in reply to GB in MT., 02-09-2008 08:37:27

Got some on the shelf just like it. I know at least one of them came off an earlier 9N but really no real way to know if one is truly original to the tractor. It was quick, easy and cheaper to go to a dealer and exchange the original for a rebuilt than it was to pay and have one rebuilt. We had our N's and NAA's tuned up every spring by the dealer and often that included exchanging the carb(my dad would have went thru the roof if he had to pay a service call and hourly charge plus kit to rebuild it in the field rather the $25+/- for the rebuild). Yours is missing the screwed on thumb screw tension clip and I'm not sure about why you have the petcock in the drain hole but other than that it sure looks original. By the way, the 241B was a superior carb, Ford and M/S superceded all other N carbs with it. You should do the same, by putting the TSX-241B kit in it.

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