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Osweld

02-09-2008 11:16:33




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I see alot of people disconnect the cable and shut off the gas is this what you are supposed to do ??

Would you take off the positive or neg cable on a 6volt system ?




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Jason1(Pa.)

02-10-2008 11:14:47




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 Re: Does everyone disconnect the battery cable when finished in reply to Osweld, 02-09-2008 11:16:33  
I don't trust them China made cut outs taht they give you these days. I've had a few of them stick and drain the battery plus cause damage to the Gen. I also had a problem with my Farmall M one time. It was at night and I looked out and seen the lights were on!!! Found out later that the wires touched inside of the light switch box and hot wired themself.. So YES I always disconect my batt and shut off fuel

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Colin King

02-10-2008 09:05:54




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 Re: Does everyone disconnect the battery cable when finished in reply to Osweld, 02-09-2008 11:16:33  
I think it"s good safety practice to disconnect the battery. My 8N has never been updated with keyed ignition, so it"s not kid proof (or foolish adult proof).

It"s also some measure of punk kid theft prevention, along with keeping it in gear and shutting off the fuel. Hopefully that"ll keep punk kids at bay. Shoot, I just told you guys how to take off with my 8N.

Colin



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Sean (TX)

02-09-2008 17:38:56




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 Re: Does everyone disconnect the battery cable when finished in reply to CT8N, 02-09-2008 11:16:33  
I dont think it matters. Just dissconnect one of them...



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osweld

02-09-2008 17:30:51




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 Re: Does everyone disconnect the battery cable when finished in reply to Osweld, 02-09-2008 11:16:33  
so...if its a positive ground are you pulling the cable off the positive post which is the ground ?



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Dunk

02-09-2008 17:41:15




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 Re: Does everyone disconnect the battery cable when finished in reply to osweld, 02-09-2008 17:30:51  
Yes!!

That would seem to be the popular consensus, disconnect the ground, regardless if it is posi or negi, disconnect the ground.



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old-9

02-09-2008 17:04:58




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 Re: Does everyone disconnect the battery cable when finished in reply to Osweld, 02-09-2008 11:16:33  
Many of us at shows always pull a battery cable off. Safety first as someone or their kids will play with things not theirs. I have been to auctions where many dumba##es will play with the stuff on sale lines. That said I take off the battery cable (ground side), If I donot plan on running tractor for a while. I do not see any reason not to remove the cable, cannot hurt the machine, might save it. Joe

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Dunk

02-09-2008 16:48:14




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 Re: Does everyone disconnect the battery cable when finished in reply to Osweld, 02-09-2008 11:16:33  
If I stop mine, and don't intend to start it again within 30 minutes, the gas is cut off, sometimes even if it will be over 15 minutes, according to my comfort level.

My battery cables stay on the battery, the switch will be in the off position BEFORE I dismount the tractor (yep, I learned that the hard way).

No sticking VR here, a 6V posi ground, Chevy, 1 wire, alternator (I had special built 20 something years ago).

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Areo

02-09-2008 14:20:14




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 Re: Does everyone disconnect the battery cable when finished in reply to Osweld, 02-09-2008 11:16:33  
About ten years a neighbor of mine lost his machine shed with almost all of his machinery. He had put his maybe ten year old tractor in it an hour before a fire erupted. Ironically the tractor had been outside all summer without incident. He was done with harvesting and decided to put it in the shed for the weekend before the fall plowing.

Areo



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Bruce (VA)

02-09-2008 11:52:28




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 Re: Does everyone disconnect the battery cable when finished in reply to Osweld, 02-09-2008 11:16:33  
Tip #9, below, will tell you why it is a very good idea to turn the gas off when you put the tractor up for the day. If that does not convince you, here is a quote from a mechanic who posted it here last year:

"We just had an 8N in the shop that the owner wanted us to fix the carb leak and replace the starter because the engine wouldn"t turn over. Turns out the base had more gas in it than oil and the bearings didn"t get enough lube from the diluted oil and seized the engine. I think of that tractor every time I park my tractors now and don"t forget to shut the fuel off."

The only reason I can think of for someone to disconnect a battery cable is a serious problem in the charging circuit that they do not know how to fix or do not have the time to fix, like a bad v/r or other short which drains the battery. There is no reason other than that to disconnect a cable.

(YT Post 10/10/07)

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Bob

02-09-2008 12:07:46




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 Re: Does everyone disconnect the battery cable when finished in reply to Bruce (VA), 02-09-2008 11:52:28  
You posted:

"The only reason I can think of for someone to disconnect a battery cable is a serious problem in the charging circuit that they do not know how to fix or do not have the time to fix, like a bad v/r or other short which drains the battery. There is no reason other than that to disconnect a cable."

I don't think disconnecting batteries on stuff left sitting around is a BAD idea!

Even with newer stuff, in tip-top shape, I often take off a battery cable if it's going to be stored for a while. (You just NEVER know.) The newer stuff has a considerable parasitic drain from the electronics, as well.

You NEVER know when some vermin may come along and decide to munch on the wiring, or some freak thing will happen to short and cause a fire, or even cause the starter to begin cranking the engine, for some freak reason.

I have seen BOTH scenarios a few times, over the years.

One time, my late Uncle, and electrician, was working alone at a remote location, and was startled to see his Econoline van ("three on the tree tranny") chugging across the parking area powered by the starter!

We never did figure out what had initiated the problem, but by the time he got the battery cover off (under the seat) and disconnected the battery, the battery, the starter, and the main wiring harness were all burnt beyond use.

I ahve a battery disconnect switch on a couple of pieces of my equipment, as well, just for safety.

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Ross Pugh(NC)

02-10-2008 09:43:08




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 Re: Does everyone disconnect the battery cable when finished in reply to Bob, 02-09-2008 12:07:46  
Iagree with you, Bob, I have a disconnect on both of my N tractors, jusst in case of anything unexpected. Kind of like wearing a life jacket in a perfectly good boat that is floating. And there is nothing wrong with my tractor requiring me to do it. Just good old common sense. Everybody should/could use more of that.



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Bruce (VA)

02-09-2008 16:37:33




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 Re: Does everyone disconnect the battery cable when finished in reply to Bob, 02-09-2008 12:07:46  
I didn't pick up on the fact from his post that he was talking about long term. Sure, if you aren't going to use the tractor for a few weeks, disconnecting the battery is a safety function, but I use float chargers on mine so I don't worry about it. After 30 days, a battery really starts to discharge; keeping it disconnected w/o a charge might keep your equipment safer, but it doesn't do much for battery life!

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