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9N sound like a johnny popper

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Andrew Kappers

02-14-2008 18:04:50




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I started my 9N up the other day to plow snow and it was running and sounding just like a John Deere 2 banger. Any idea what is wrong? Came back the next day started it up and ran just fine. Weird. I dont want to run it there may be something wrong with it. Thanks, andy




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Dell (WA)

02-14-2008 19:21:25




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 Re: 9N sound like a johnny popper in reply to Andrew Kappers, 02-14-2008 18:04:50  
Andy..... ..feller on page 2 asked essentially the same question..... .."I started up my 2N to plow the drive way tonight. It is cold 25F but after a few cranks it started up. I let it warm up for about 5 min and then tried to get going. Tractor was running rough after trying to break it loose of the snow and ice. I tried to start plowing but under load the tractor sparked and died. After that no life. It is still a 6v system. Not sure what the problem is. Could use some help with the diagnois."

My answer to him..... .."yer 5-min warm-up may have "killed you". You could have "frosted" the guttz of yer carb and plugged them little jetholes. Its called "carb icing" and a well known phenomena to small airplane pilots who must pull power robbing "carb HEAT" on the engine so it don't die when they idle back on approach.

Bett'cha you can go out and restarter now. (the latent heat of the exhaust manifold will have melted the carb icing) Iff'n yer gonna warm up yer tractor, use about 1/2 throttle. This will gittcha past them itty-bitty idle jetholes.

Remember; carb icing is a "weather phenomena" with the right combination of air moisture, air temperature, carb temp. (carbs always gitt cold when carb-bing, its the physics of air expansion) Iff'n it still happening, wrap some aluminum foil around yer exhaust pipe and carb air intake pipe. (cheap, eh?)

Did you know yer belchfire-V8 also has a secret "carb heat" passage underneath the intake manifold?

I first ran into it in the "high desert" of New Mexico when this ol'Plymouth 6-cyl quit running and coasted over to the side of the road and carb was white with frost. Us teenage boys were going to ElPaso-Juarez Mex for some "custom double-eagle" cowboy boots and some nitetime fun. (grin)..... ...Dell, dreaming of lost youth"

PS..... .in cold weather, ALWAYS start out in REVERSE to "un-stick" yer frozen tires without rotating yer tractor over on yer back!!!

BOTTOM LINE..... ..ain't nuttin wrong with yer tractor..... ..Dell

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Den N Ms

02-14-2008 19:06:13




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 Re: 9N sound like a johnny popper in reply to Andrew Kappers, 02-14-2008 18:04:50  
Andrew,It could have been caused by moisture in the distributor cap caused by rain , snow ,condensation in the cap or radiator overflow.Next day it dried out and run good.



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Tom N MS

02-14-2008 18:11:44




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 Re: 9N sound like a johnny popper in reply to Andrew Kappers, 02-14-2008 18:04:50  
Could have been some condensation in the gas. Could have been a valve or two trying to stick. Could have been old cracked spark plug wires jumping fire. I'd add a little MMO or ATF to the gas and run the dog out of it.



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GaryP

02-14-2008 18:40:01




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 Re: 9N sound like a johnny popper in reply to Tom N MS, 02-14-2008 18:11:44  
My 9n did pretty much the same thing-bought new points condenser rotor button.
took the cap off and that little piece of copper wire on top of the rotor button was bent sideways just enough to cause problems-went ahead and put all the new parts in and runs fine now.



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Tom N MS

02-14-2008 18:53:02




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 Re: 9N sound like a johnny popper in reply to GaryP, 02-14-2008 18:40:01  
That would do it too...Must have been something that caused the tab to bend. I think I'd check for side play etc in the distributor.



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