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Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N

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Osweld

02-18-2008 15:56:04




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would a 9N in great condition be worth the same as an 8N in great condition ?




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Dan2N217688

02-21-2008 03:14:42




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 Re: Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N in reply to Sean McDonnell, 02-18-2008 15:56:04  
Around here, 8n's go alittle higher. I have a 46 2n and I love it, but I hate the brakes on left and right sides. I always tend to use the right brake more. My position control could be remedied by a zane thing. I dont need 4 speeds, 3rd gear hardly gets used around here. I cant see me selling the old girl, so next will have to be a NAA or better.



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Sean (TX)

02-19-2008 16:07:49




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 Re: Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N in reply to Dunk, 02-18-2008 15:56:04  
I hear you on that comment. A over/under would be nice. No need for a step up.



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Dan

02-19-2008 10:16:20




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 Re: Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N in reply to Osweld, 02-18-2008 15:56:04  
The short answer is no. Not only for the reasons mentioned below, but also because it is up to 12 years newer. I will say though, a good 1939 9N is worth more than a good 1952 8N due to the collectability of this year. Otherwise, I would never pay the same amount for a 9N/2N that I would for an equally nice 8N.

Dan



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soundguy

02-19-2008 06:18:34




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 Re: Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N in reply to Osweld, 02-18-2008 15:56:04  
I agree with Bob and Dunk. for a 'use me' tractor.. the 8ns 4 spd tranny, position control, 1-2 more HP, and a small handfull of other options are really nice.

Otherwise.. a good 9n is pretty much worth as much as a good 8n, without respect tot he upgrades for practical use.

soundguy



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Mr. Bob

02-19-2008 15:20:54




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 Re: Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N in reply to soundguy, 02-19-2008 06:18:34  
A Sherman step-up and a Zane Thang will greatly level the playing field between the 9/2N and the 8N. The 9/2N is not cursed with the miserable high speed reverse that is in an 8N. I've operated both and would choose my 2N as I have it equipped over a stock 8N. JMHO Mr. Bob



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soundguy

02-20-2008 06:20:28




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 Re: Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N in reply to Mr. Bob, 02-19-2008 15:20:54  
The later 8n has a slightly better reverse.. however.. your 9n/2n as equipped with the zane thang, and sherman tranny, is about 1000$ more expensive than a plain 8n.. so that is not quite an apples to apples comparison.

Once you dump 1000$ of upgrades on a 9n/2n, then you are inthe price range of a 600.. and that entails more hp, possible better trans options, possible better pto options, and deffinately better hyds.. etc.

soundguy

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Bill(Wis)

02-19-2008 16:17:05




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 Re: Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N in reply to Mr. Bob, 02-19-2008 15:20:54  
Hi Bob. Just for info, sometime in mid-1952, (Sorry, I don't know the serial number) a change was made to the 8N transmission incorporating a larger gear to allow a lower reverse speed. While I don't have the serial number, these transmissions can be identified by a noticeable bulge on the lower left side of the transmission case, down by the step plate. See Smiths 8N page for a photo of it. Nice to hear from you again.

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TheOldHokie

02-19-2008 15:50:35




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 Re: Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N in reply to Mr. Bob, 02-19-2008 15:20:54  
The one thing my 9N does NOT need is higher gearing. Decent brakes yes - but not a step-up transmission.

TOH



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Mr. Bob

02-22-2008 15:04:33




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 Re: Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N in reply to TheOldHokie, 02-19-2008 15:50:35  
I find the step-up tranny in my 2N very useful for my needs. I have to travel on country roads for sometimes 2-5 miles round trip to haul firewood. Having a top speed of 20 mph is quite handy. I like having 6 speeds foreward and 2 reverse. This makes the tractor much more useful for the job(s) I need it for. Mr. Bob



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corvetteguy

02-19-2008 03:37:04




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 Re: Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N in reply to Osweld, 02-18-2008 15:56:04  
YES



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Sean (TX)

02-18-2008 16:39:44




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 Re: Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N in reply to high pockets, 02-18-2008 15:56:04  
Sounds like a 9N fill fill your needs. I have a 9N so I am playing favorites.



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Dan in CO

02-18-2008 16:37:13




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 Re: Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N in reply to Osweld, 02-18-2008 15:56:04  
Osweld:

I have a 1947 2N, born the same year as me. When I was a kid, my Dad had a 1941 9N and I remember driving his around and getting lots of work done with it. The 2N and the 9N are nearly identical. All for nostalgic reasons, I prefer the 9-2N’s just for the look. I’m not sure there is a difference in value other than to the owner.

Just get what works for you



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HCooke

02-18-2008 16:26:00




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 Re: Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N in reply to Osweld, 02-18-2008 15:56:04  
Osweld, Depends on what you plan to do with your tractor. I have a 9N, a 2N, and a couple of 8N's. The 8N is more useful. 4 speed trany and position control. As Dunk points out, my '51 is 12 years younger than my 9N. That means 11 years of less wear depending on how the previous owener used or abused the tractor. So if I need the position control, out comes the 8N. (If you really want a tractor to work with get a NAA or 600 and enjoy the live hydraulics, or a 660 and enjoy live PTO) But I enjoy dinking around on the older models just for the nostalgia kick.

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Osweld

02-18-2008 16:28:09




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 Re: Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N in reply to HCooke, 02-18-2008 16:26:00  
Yea I just want one to back blade some gravel and snow once in awhile, mainly to play around with,lol



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Leroy

02-20-2008 18:22:07




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 Re: Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N in reply to Osweld, 02-18-2008 16:28:09  
For what you are wanting to do you would want the position control ;only on the 8N; as the draft control on a 3 speed ;9N or 2N; will want to keep moving the blade around on you and not want to leave it set where you had set it, draft is for plowing



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Dunk

02-18-2008 16:06:19




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 Re: Is a 9N worth the same as an 8N in reply to Osweld, 02-18-2008 15:56:04  
I personally would not buy a 9N, unless it was in really good condition, and very cheap, as I could turn a buck on it (I would not want it for my own use).

I wouldn't want one for many reasons, among these are the differences in the lift, the differences in the transmission, the differences in the steering sectors, the differences front pivot pin, and the availability of many of the parts.

There are folks that feel just opposite of me, due to the age, collectibility, etc.

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Bob

02-18-2008 20:43:38




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 I agree with yu, Dunkster... in reply to Dunk, 02-18-2008 16:06:19  
I agree with you, Dunkster.

The 9N's/2N's make GREAT collectyor tractors, but if you are going to WORK your tractor, the 8N with it's 4-speed tranny and factoyr position control is a MUCH better "animal"!

The LATE 8N, with better rear axle seals, and a side-mount distributor is even BETTER!



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36 coupe

02-20-2008 15:14:00




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 Re: I agree with yu, Dunkster... in reply to Bob, 02-18-2008 20:43:38  
The 9N wont bolt up a stationary hitch.I cant use my baler on the 3 point hitch or my tongue heavy spreader.I bought a 600 to get the ohv engine and full time hydraulic pump plus no loose hubs.I have used the 9n 2n and 8n and like the 600 better.



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