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alex o'dell

02-19-2008 17:47:54




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My 8n has suddenly developed a problem in which when I start it it runs for a few seconds and then shuts off like it ran out of gas. If I let it set for a few minutes it does the same thing again.

I drained the line and bowl to make sure nothing was obstructing the flow to the carborator.

Any ideas anyone?

Alex O'Dell




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Bruce (VA)

02-19-2008 18:27:27




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 Re: carborator problems in reply to alex o'dell, 02-19-2008 17:47:54  
It is important for you to tell us if your tractor has a 6 volt or 12 volt electrical system & if the distributor is on the front of the engine or on the side. The troubleshooting is different based upon the configuration of your engine.

Next time it does this, check quickly for spark then fuel. Get an old plug, open the gap to 3/16, ground it to a rust & paint free spot on the head, turn the key on & crank the engine. You have three possibilities: no spark, weak and/or intermittent yellow spark, or a bright blue spark. What is it? Next, check for fuel. Remove the bolt in the bottom of the carb; as long as the fuel is turned on, you should see gas flowing out of the carb. If not, the N has three fuel screens; one in the brass elbow, one in the top of the sediment bowl & one on the stem of the sediment bowl in the gas tank. All three probably need to be cleaned. If you have the fuel knob turned on all the way, it may be trying to feed off of the reserve inlet which is probably clogged. Put at least 2 gallons in the tank.

As a good rule of thumb, a 1 - 2 minute run times is usually the condenser, ballast resistor, or vacuum lock....or, failure to turn the gas on. A 5 minute run time is usually fuel screens. A 15 minute run time is usually the ignition switch. A one hour run time & then restarts after it cools down is usually the coil.

Please be sure to post back & let us know what the fix was. We all learn something if you tell us what worked!

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alex o'dell

02-19-2008 18:33:44




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 Re: carborator problems in reply to Bruce (VA), 02-19-2008 18:27:27  
Bruce,


Thanks for your recommendation. Mine is a 6-volt and the distributor is in the front.

Do you mean with the plug to unscrew from the engine and leave attached to the plug wire to test for spark.

The plugs that are in it are old etc. Two weeks ago I started it and drove it around without a problem. I have never had this problem before.

let me know your thoughts and I'll keep you posted with the results.

Alex

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Bruce (VA)

02-19-2008 18:50:34




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 Re: carborator problems in reply to alex o'dell, 02-19-2008 18:33:44  
It's a lot easier if you use an old plug. It does not need to be an N plug. I keep an old plug in the tool box of my N's for this very purpose.



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Dell (WA)

02-19-2008 18:21:03




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 Re: carborator problems in reply to alex o'dell, 02-19-2008 17:47:54  
Alex..... ...whats the weather like? Why? 'cuz certain combinations of cool, moist weather conditions will ICE the gutts of yer carb and cause it to QUIT at idle speeds. And the latent head of the exhaust manifold will melt the carb ICE and allow you to restart in a few minutes as you describe.

The very act of carburetting sucks temperature outta the air inside the carb venturi causing it to be ultra cold and will FROST yer itty-bitty idle jet holes closed iff'n there is excess moisture in the airstream.

This is a known phenomena and infact small airplanes have a "CARB HEAT" lever that the pilot pulls on idle approach so he don't loose power iff'n he needs to make a go-around. Infact yer belchfire-V8 even has a "carb heat" passage cast into the intake manifold underneath the carb for just the same reason. Isn't that amazing???

Simple quick fix. Wrap yer exhaust pipe and intake pipe together with some aluminum foil. Simple, eh? ..... ..Dell

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Alex O'Dell

02-19-2008 18:40:59




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 Re: carborator problems in reply to Dell (WA), 02-19-2008 18:21:03  
The weather wasn't too bad maybe in the 40s and not too damp. Two weeks previous it started with no problem. The plugs are old but it has been running like a top.


Alex



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Russ in ATL

02-19-2008 18:05:50




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 Re: carborator problems in reply to alex o'dell, 02-19-2008 17:47:54  
I have the same problem on my "52 8N. Anyone have any suggestions? I was going to replace the gas tank in case there is too much debris in the old tank....? I have already replaced the entire carb, wiring harness, plugs, wires, and new bowl.



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Dunk

02-19-2008 17:51:53




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 Re: carborator problems in reply to alex o'dell, 02-19-2008 17:47:54  
Did you have a quart jar under the carb when you drained it?

Did it run a clean pint pretty fast, with no water in the bottom?



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Alex O'Dell

02-19-2008 18:08:15




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 Re: carborator problems in reply to Dunk, 02-19-2008 17:51:53  
No, I only drained the line to the carborator. How would I go about draining the carborator?



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Dell (WA)

02-19-2008 18:23:56




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 Re: carborator problems in reply to Alex O'Dell, 02-19-2008 18:08:15  
Alix..... ...would you believe that underneath yer carb is a 7/16-hex bolt that is the DRAIN for the entire carb system?..... ...Dell



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Alex O'Dell

02-19-2008 18:38:52




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 Re: carborator problems in reply to Dell (WA), 02-19-2008 18:23:56  
Thanks for the information. I'll give it a try.

Alex



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