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Russ in ATL

02-19-2008 18:23:04

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I have a "52 8N, front mount dist, and after about 2-5 mins, it dies. I let it set, and it will run again for about 2-5 mins. If I choke it, it will run (rough), but will make it back to the barn. I have replaced the carb, wiring harness, plugs, and bowl. I believe it to be a gas issue. I was going to replace the gas tank to see if that helped. Any other ideas?

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soundguy

02-20-2008 07:43:31

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Re: Runs then dies after a couple minutes in reply to Russ in ATL, 02-19-2008 18:23:04

When she dies, pull the bottom plug fromt he carb and let it run into a glass jar.. if no fuel comes out.. you have an obstruction.. .. might find water.. if so.. could be that ICING thing already mentioned.. etc..

If ya got plenty of fuel at the bowl.. still could be iced inthe carb jets.. or could be other reasons.. check spark at stall.. post back

soundguy

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Russ in ATL

02-19-2008 19:11:46

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Re: Runs then dies after a couple minutes in reply to Russ in ATL, 02-19-2008 18:23:04

No, the weather is warm. The gas appears to flow freely when I remove the bowl. I was just trying to think what could be causing it. It is a SIDE mount dist.

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Dell (WA)

02-19-2008 19:48:28

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Re: Runs then dies after a couple minutes in reply to Russ in ATL, 02-19-2008 19:11:46

Russ..... ..don't blow me off. The outside weather don't haffta be cold. Its the MOISTURE content of the air and the NATURAL cooling effect of carburetting thru the venturi. So whattza little aluminum foil gonnna cost ya???

I was in a 6-cyl Plymouth in 1954 going thru the high desert of New Mexico on the way to ElPaso-Juarez with some other young boys to gitt some custom made "Double-Eagle" cowboy boots made and spend some time in the Juarez entertainment establishments when the engine quit and we coasted over to the side of the road with a WHITE FROSTY carburetor. Us guys had 'nebber' heard of such a thing. After about 1/2hr of NO TRAFFIC, the engine heat melted the frost and we were on our way to dens of iniquity and depravity. YAH-HAH..... .Dell (grin)

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Russ in ATL

02-20-2008 08:19:31

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Re: Runs then dies after a couple minutes in reply to Dell (WA), 02-19-2008 19:48:28

Ok, I was not aware of any problems like you explained. But, I do not follow how this could be fixed with aluminum foil....?

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Dell (WA)

02-20-2008 08:47:50

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Re: Runs then dies after a couple minutes in reply to Russ in ATL, 02-20-2008 08:19:31

Russ..... .go out and look att'chur tractor. Exhaust pipe and airfilter to carb pipe cross-over each other. Just wrap the two pipes together with aluminum foil. It will "trap" the exhaust pipe heat and WARM the incoming carb air. This warm air will help prevent internal carb icing which is what I believe yer run and die problem is. Understand now???..... ..respectfully, Dell

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old

02-19-2008 18:48:57

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Re: Runs then dies after a couple minutes in reply to Russ in ATL, 02-19-2008 18:23:04

Just a question for you. 1952 and front mount do not add up. Last year the front mount was made was early 1950 then in late 50 they changed to the side mount. So what do you have a cross between 2 years??

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Russ in ATL

02-19-2008 19:09:13

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Re: Runs then dies after a couple minutes in reply to old, 02-19-2008 18:48:57

I am sorry, you are right. It is a SIDE Mount dist.

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old

02-19-2008 20:17:09

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Re: Runs then dies after a couple minutes in reply to Russ in ATL, 02-19-2008 19:09:13

That can make a difference on how to fix one, is the reason I asked

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Russ in ATL

02-20-2008 08:18:06

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Re: Runs then dies after a couple minutes in reply to old, 02-19-2008 20:17:09

No, I completely understand.

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jim(SE-Mich)

02-19-2008 18:33:31

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Re: Runs then dies after a couple minutes in reply to Russ in ATL, 02-19-2008 18:23:04

Yes'
I have a better idea.
Replacing the gas tank for this problem is not rational thinking. If it is a gas problem the screen that extends into the gas tank may be plugged. Remove the plug on the bottom of the carburetor and with the shutoff valve open gas should run out.
If gas does not run out remove the sediment bowl from the shutoff valve and then see if you can get gas to run from the tank. No gas yet? Remove the shutoff valve from the tank(unscrew it) and clean the screen that is above it. You get the idea?
Hope this helps.
Jim

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Dell (WA)

02-19-2008 18:26:00

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Re: Runs then dies after a couple minutes in reply to Russ in ATL, 02-19-2008 18:23:04

Russ..... ...whats the weather like? Why? 'cuz certain combinations of cool, moist weather conditions will ICE the gutts of yer carb and cause it to QUIT at idle speeds. And the latent head of the exhaust manifold will melt the carb ICE and allow you to restart in a few minutes as you describe.

The very act of carburetting sucks temperature outta the air inside the carb venturi causing it to be ultra cold and will FROST yer itty-bitty idle jet holes closed iff'n there is excess moisture in the airstream.

This is a known phenomena and infact small airplanes have a "CARB HEAT" lever that the pilot pulls on idle approach so he don't loose power iff'n he needs to make a go-around. Infact yer belchfire-V8 even has a "carb heat" passage cast into the intake manifold underneath the carb for just the same reason. Isn't that amazing???

Simple quick fix. Wrap yer exhaust pipe and intake pipe together with some aluminum foil. Simple, eh? ..... ..Dell

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Bob Harvey

02-19-2008 19:36:24

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Re: Runs then dies after a couple minutes in reply to Dell (WA), 02-19-2008 18:26:00

Carb. ICING----IS. As expalained by Dell(WA), currently, and myself many moons ago, the physics of air accelerated by a venturi creates.....blah, blah, blah. You gots carb. icing. Follow the instructions provided by Dell, or add something that you can devise that will keep/provide heat for the carb.

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Russ in ATL

02-20-2008 08:20:36

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Re: Runs then dies after a couple minutes in reply to Bob Harvey, 02-19-2008 19:36:24

I do not follow what I need to do....

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Dell (WA)

02-20-2008 08:50:28

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Re: Runs then dies after a couple minutes in reply to Russ in ATL, 02-20-2008 08:20:36

Russ..... ..what part of "Simple quick fix. Wrap yer exhaust pipe and intake pipe together with some aluminum foil. Simple, eh? ..... ..Dell" don't you understand???

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Russ in ATL

02-20-2008 09:59:43

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Re: Runs then dies after a couple minutes in reply to Dell (WA), 02-20-2008 08:50:28

Does it make you feel better to insult instead of instruct.....?

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