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Norm Lavoie

03-23-2008 06:34:20




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Hi everyone...I'll ask if any of you fine gents can help me out here. I keep hearing and reading about people converting there old ignition points setup to electronic ignition. But I have no clue where to buy or how much. Has anyone ever successfully converted using an old Ford car's ignition? Could find something at the wrecker's

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Hobo,NC

03-23-2008 15:47:28




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 Re: electronic ignition convertion help in reply to Norm Lavoie, 03-23-2008 06:34:20  
I can tell ya a 12V EI system will kick the chit out of a points set up,,, never fudged with a 6v EI setup so dunno,,, I would spec a properly set up system would out perform a 6v point system hands down,,, don't let the cost fool ya,,, nuttins cheap,,, either system have maintenance items,,, soon are later replacement is inevitable

Most folks are happy with a points set up,,, just cuzz they a happy does not mean its more efficient

I bet the biggest improvement you will here from those that have made the switch is how much EZ'er it starts and how good it runs cold,,, unlike a points set up that needs to B fed a good help'in of choke, cuffs out and dies

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dlplost

03-23-2008 10:36:44




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 Re: electronic ignition convertion help in reply to Norm Lavoie, 03-23-2008 06:34:20  
POINTS:
1950 8n 12v, current points have been there for 3 years, set before was there for 5 years.

1952 8n 6v, 2 years so far, only had this one 2 years.

Both tractors are used almost every weekend all year around.
Never seen a good reason for EI.



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Dell (WA)

03-23-2008 08:32:02




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 Re: electronic ignition convertion help in reply to Norm Lavoie, 03-23-2008 06:34:20  
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Norm..... ..unless yer an experienced electronics tinkerer and autoparts wrecking yards are GIVING away computer controled electronic ignitions, you don't wanna go there.

There is 'nuttin' magic about electronic ignition 'ceptin' gittin the little module to fit INSIDE the 4-nipple frontmount distributor. Why? 'cuz the squarecan ignition coil has only 1-terminal and you gotta gitt the module triggered by distributor rotation somehow.

The roundcan 5-nipple sidemount is more generous spacewize and can be mounted inside the base.

I build my first electronic ignition in 1962 and installed it on my 1956 Dodge D-500 Hemi. Ran like stink and I could always out-drag my buddy's dual 4-barrel RamCharger. I have a Delta Mk10 Capacitor Discharge HE electronic ignition on my 1969 BMW 2002 165hp 7500rpm dual-carb 4-banger. I once let the points go for over 100,000 miles before changing them. Good thing I did 'cuz the bakelite rubbing block was virtually worn off.

Point is, electronic ignition is good but not necessarily always good for you. ..... .respectfully, Dell yer self-appointed sparkie-meister

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Bruce (VA)

03-23-2008 06:55:11




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 Re: electronic ignition convertion help in reply to Norm Lavoie, 03-23-2008 06:34:20  
Well, if you have enough time, money & ability, I'm sure you could cobble something together from a car ignition. Or, you could look on the 'parts' section of this site, as well as other places, & buy a kit.

But, the bigger question is why would you want EI on a 50+ year old tractor?

Unless the tractor is already converted to 12v, an electronic ignition (EI) for the 6v is not a wise choice. Because of the precise voltage requirements of the EI, even a slightly discharged battery will result in a 'no start' situation. While a 12v conversion & EI will give many years of effortless operation....it does not come w/o problems. The first is cost; compare the costs of annually changing the points/plugs/ condenser/ rotor ($20) vs the cost of a 12v conversion ($145, plus $40 for a 12v battery, or $185) and add to that the cost of the EI ($150) and you get a 12 year pay-back. The second problem is that an EI is quite unforgiving of polarity reversal & other common mistakes of tractor ownership; hook up the battery cables backward & you fry the $150 EI. (unless you get one w/ a fuse in the circuit) Of course, a 12v conversion & EI installation can be done by a skilled mechanic for less than $235....but, the same skilled mechanic could fix the problems that are being "solved" by the 12v conversion & EI installation in the first place. Simply put, these are low HP, low compression engines that start & run just fine off of 6v & points. Unless the owner needs to run 12v auxilary equipment, or has a worn out engine in need of a rebuild & wants to buy some time by having the faster spinning 12v to improve starting.....a 12v conversion is not really necessary. Likewise, an EI on an N is a lot of overkill.....IMHO!

Bottom line.....all EI does on these tractors is replace the points. It does not give you a hotter spark, more HP, longer engine life, cure the common cold or male pattern baldness.

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36 coupe

03-25-2008 03:44:39




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 Re: electronic ignition convertion help in reply to Bruce (VA), 03-23-2008 06:55:11  
I built up a 3 point sprayer that has its own 12 v battery.A full charge will run the pump longer than I can afford spray chemicals.



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