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OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders

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Pete in OH

03-27-2008 06:48:07

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Anyone got a good idea about handling unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders? Last year they ride their 4-wheelers through my creek until late at night. Keeps me awake. I ask them to stop they ignore me and keep doing it, one of them even argued with me about it. He thinks he has the right to go wherever he wants. Now it"s warming up and I guess to get some revenge they stop on their 4-wheelers last night and tear my mailbox out of the ground and throw it in the yard. What"s a person supposed to do...right about now I think selling the house, property, and two Ns and moving into a subdivision sounds about right.

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Ken-Ga

03-28-2008 13:01:27

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Nothing makes me madder than ATV's on my property. Most owners of 'fourwheelers' don't have an acre of land but they want to run roughshod over everyone else's land. They degrade streams, cause ruts everywhere, disturb the natural lifestyle of game animals, and trespass. They drive around your gates, they will cut your fences and cut doughnuts in your fields. Call the sheriff or DNR and tell them someone is trespassing and shooting guns on your property and you are arming yourself to go find out who they are and stop them. That will get the local authorities hopping. If the local sheriff or DNR agent doesn't respond, get their name and go over their heads if you have to.

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Tex P

03-28-2008 09:58:09

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

It is beyond me that criminals (thieves, trespassers,vandals etc.)as well as the courts, feel that they have a RIGHT to a safe work environment.
'nuff said
Tex

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Howard H.

03-28-2008 07:52:52

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

I'm pretty shocked by all the negative comments regarding the local law enforcement... I guess maybe we're spoiled by having pretty good local guys (here in the town where I work, at least).

BUT, that being said - a wise old friend of mine - who is extremely adept at getting results no matter what the situation - was taught a couple of great tricks by his crusty old Grandpa who died with an estate of tens of thousands of acres...

He makes sure to personally, but casually, meet both the front-runner DA and Sheriff candidates and tell them he's heard good things about them and would like to make a donation to their election campaigns...

He said that's paid huge dividends more than once for him.

Howard

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Jeff-oh

03-28-2008 07:47:42

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Pete, you may also want to call State Rep. Harwood. She is working on legislation to address the ATV trespass issue.

What part of Ohio are you in?

Sandra Harwood
77 S. High St
10th Floor
Columbus, OH 43215-6111
Telephone: (614) 466-3488
Fax : (614) 719-3965
Email Address: district65@ohr.state.oh.us

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ZANE

03-28-2008 07:34:20

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Get a box of long round washered head felt roofing nails and scatter them all over the path they are using. I guarentee they will stop using that path.

Don't ask how I know!

Zane

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Dunk

03-28-2008 07:29:42

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Granny would also "smite that eye" if you "back talked" her!!

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bear gap

03-28-2008 04:12:02

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Years ago in East Tennessee I recall a farmer had a lot of trouble with people trespassing and having wild parties and trampling his strawberry crop. He finally posted signs saying CAUTION RADIATION HAZARD TO UNOPROTECTED PERSONNEL! People not only quit trespassing, but property values fell sharply and a big hubbub ensued. After some direct questioning by authorities about what was going on, the farmer said he just wanted people to know if they run around bare naked they were going to get a sunburn.

=Vic=
Bear Gap, PA

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JOHN HUNT

03-27-2008 22:38:45

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

FIND WHERE HE LIVE than ask to stop come on your place THEN if don"t GET YOU A ATV OPEN UP AND MAKE LOUD AND DRIVE DOWN TO HIS HOUSE GO UP AND DOWN HIS STRRET JUST IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE... but first record him do his damage to you land then do it

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r seacat

03-27-2008 21:45:51

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

me and a father in-law was fishing up at a small lake called blues creek in nc when this fellow on a personel watercraft decided that doing donuts around are small conoe was a good idea well my father in-law took offence to this called him over asked him if he had brain damage and then swung the oar at the fellow just to scare the daylights out of the boy. scared me to but the boy was smart enough to leave and not to come back

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Joe)NYC)

03-27-2008 20:52:26

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Two years ago I was upstate(NY) hunting on my land with 2 friends. One calls me on walkie talkie and asks me when did I build the wooden bridge accross the stream? I certainly didn't so someone must have done it. After seeing it myself I couldn't belive my eyes. They cut down my trees to build the wooden bridge. Later I called a neighbor asked if he had seen anyone on my land. He said he did, but had thought that I was aware of it. Word got around to the perpetrators that I was pissed. That night a guy shows up at my trailer and tells he's the one who put up the bridge and thought that I wouldn't mind. He claimed that only he and his girlfriend would be riding snowmobiles and neede to get to the other side of stream to get to my neighbor's land. I gave him a piece of my mind and he left. On my last day there I used a chain saw to reduce the width of the bridge from about 4-1/2 foot to only abot 1-1/2 foot just enough to walk over. The guy lives in a splashy new house 1/2 mile down the road. Never took any other action against him. I think he knows enough to stay off because I have my two friends as witnesses when he admitted to the tresspassing, cutting of trees etc.

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Mark Pearce

03-27-2008 23:17:47

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Joe)NYC), 03-27-2008 20:52:26

Joe, If the local law inforcement don't help check into this. I once knew a farmer who had your same problem with tree cutters tresspassing. Found out that in his state the cutting of anothers trees was a way more serious offense than tresspassing and included hefty fines for replacing your trees. Check into or call your local forestry guys and check. We almost have to force our local law enforcement to get outta the donut shops to do anything.

Mark....

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Ron-MO

03-28-2008 06:20:27

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Mark Pearce, 03-27-2008 23:17:47

That is called Timber Theft in MO, and payable to the owner up to 3 times the actual value of the tree(s). A couple years ago I had a logger buying timber off a neighbor. The logger decided he liked one of my trees, and cut it and removed it. Not sure of actual value of the tree, but it cost him $500 to shut me up and forget it. I am pretty sure he thought he could get away with it since it is a remote area, and not fenced, however they had just surveyed it prior to the logging, and it was clearly across the line, and on my property. I basically told him he was in the business of buying timber, he cut my tree, and I need compensated, or he will hear from my attorney. I explained the timber theft issue, and a check arrived shortly thereafter. Guess he figured the attorney would eat up $500 and then some very quickly and he had better pay up.

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MR in MN

03-27-2008 19:40:19

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

My friend had kids partying in his field, getting in through a ditch, until they got flats from running over the sickle blades that welded together. Lay one flat, weld one vertical, leaves a 3 inch gash in a tire. Also, the stick with a nail in it, wedged into the bush in the ditch, had curly cues of red paint on it. They never came back.

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MikeT

03-27-2008 18:07:37

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Pete -

Check the Ohio laws on Waterway Trespass. Some states say that all waterways are public property. But, whether this includes the creek banks is another matter that probably ain't spelled out very well.

My neighbor has paid campers on our creek in the summer. At least once a weekend a tow truck has to be called to get some drunk sob's truck out of the water. Toe truck guy charges $100 each trip. Once they get on his part of the creek they think they have the right to go anywhere on the creek. And I tell you one thing, I sure ain't going down there to run them off. Most get drunk and have guns.

Oklahoma says it's a public waterway if you can get a boat up it. But, they don't say what kind of boat! You can't get out of the boat nor anchor it if the bank is private property. You can fish if you stay in the water in a boat but you can't set out a trot-line.

Most state laws on this subject are totally bogus. Just block their path with some LARGE rocks or tree trunks, or put up a fence.

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Dunk

03-27-2008 15:43:46

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Re: Carefull there.... in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Granny had some good ideas.

Call *no one*.

Hide in the dark.

Shotgun full of shells filled with rock salt.

Easy to see vehicles in the dark that have lights.

No one sees you.

Be close to a property line.

Have an alibi.

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G6 in Snook, TX

03-27-2008 14:49:15

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Don't go to a subdivision; they have homeowner associations that think your land is their land. What does the law say?

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Ken(Ark)

03-27-2008 14:32:59

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

"Caution target range ahead"

And set up targets that have holes in them .

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TheOldHokie

03-27-2008 15:43:06

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No Trespassing - Survivors Will Be Prosecuted in reply to Ken(Ark), 03-27-2008 14:32:59

That sign was posted on the main gate to McJunkin Junk, Charleston WV, ca 1960. I never heard of anyone being prosecuted....

TOH

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Wyo

03-27-2008 15:31:03

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Ken(Ark), 03-27-2008 14:32:59

I like this idea, at least it would give them pause to think and if you did pop off a few rounds while they were in ear shot they may get the picture.

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Pete in OH

03-27-2008 12:48:35

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Wow, I've been reading up on this whole ATV trespassing thing. Look at this website - www.landrights.com/atv.htm People have actually been beaten, run over, and nearly killed all because they asked these jerks to get off their land. I guess next time I ask them to leave I should be carrying my shotgun.

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TheOldHokie

03-27-2008 15:38:59

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Carefull there.... in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 12:48:35

I guess next time I ask them to leave I should be carrying my shotgun.

The law can be a bit twitchy when it comes to armed resistance. Case in point - the infamous "Myersville Potato Patch Massacere" of 1985 or so. Local bunch of kids had a habit of getting all beered up and raiding a local fellas woodpile for bon fire supplies. He decided to stand guard one summer evening when they commenced to partying on the adjoining hill. Sure nuff - here they came in the wee hours - all piled into a Jeep. He called the Sheriff and went to confront them on his own. Things get a little murkey at this point - they were in his potato patch doing donuts for sure - he let off both barrels and then they allegedly turned and tried to run him down. He let go with his trusty handgun - winged the driver in the forearm just as the Deputies arrived. Well he became a local cause celebre when the kids father filed an assualt with dangerous weapon/intent to kill charge. He was looking at some big time. Aided by public outrage in the end he lost his guns and was sentenced to an extended period of probation. The kids got probation as well.

You dang well better be in a verifiable, unavoidable, life threatening situation before you shoot a trespasser.

Not a lawyer - just a bit of personal experience,

TOH

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Dunk

03-27-2008 12:11:26

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Granny loaded her 12 guage shell with rock salt, didn't she?

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Ron-MO

03-27-2008 12:11:25

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

P.S. There are idiots in those subdivisions too. Most of the ones you are having problems with probably come from the subdivisions. They have the 4 wheelers, and no place to ride them, and they will take the 'path of least resistance' to ride them. Give them some heavy resistance. Try Department of Nat Resources, Conservation, (forget the local law), then if all else fails it is your turn at bat.

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TheOldHokie

03-27-2008 11:37:22

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

I just dropped a couple 200# stumps in the middle of the freeway. Now if I could just get the idiot deputy sheriff on the adjoining property to cease target practice before midnight I could get a good night's sleep. Last night he was still lighting off caps at 2AM!!! Dang I wish they still only gave them one bullet...

TOH

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Pete in OH

03-27-2008 11:42:22

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to TheOldHokie, 03-27-2008 11:37:22

Here's a good one...last year when they started riding in the creek they could only get so far before they came to a big tree trunk laying across the way...figure that would stop them...nope...waited till I wasn't home and took a chainsaw down there and cut the tree up.

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jack harmon

03-27-2008 11:29:19

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

In okla if you want some help call the local game ranger THEY will definitly help!! I dont know how many times a local sherrif has wanted me to drive his county vehicle while he spotlighted deer,family has @2000 acres here and the wildlife personnell tries to drive by every day if you ask them to.our biggest problem is fishing or hunting tresspass,all you have to do is get the tag #s of thier vehicles game ranger will find them.You will not even have to go to court.they bail themselves out of jail a few times and your problem will go away

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soundguy

03-27-2008 11:06:57

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Call the police.. but expect absolutely -0- help.. At least get it on record that you called and get a copy of the report.

I had ATV's driving across a pasture I was refurbing.. really tearing it up.. making ruts that were eating shear bolts like crazy.

I calle dthe cops.. a deputy who got assigned to my call actually got miffed I called and would not come out. It took an email the the director of operations asking why no effort by the deputy before he would call me back. Now obviously -mad- at this point for being called on the carpet. He basically made a report and closed it immediatly.. and told me he was going to do that...

At that point i took a sunday off and hit TSc in the morning and loade dup a bunch of t-post and wood posts and a couple rolls of barb wire and strung up a 3-strand fence, with place for a 4th strand if i ever put animals on it. I put up reflective tape and colored tape streamers ont he wire fence so the riders would see it the next time they came thru.

For me i only had to fence off about 400'.. so it was a 1-day ( long day ) ordeal.. if you have more land.. it will be a harder job.

in any case.. the wire fence 100% stopped the riders. I've been told that for the simple tresspassing before the fence was up.. cops do very little. Now.. however.. if they cut your fence to then tresspass.. then there is some tangible property damage and the police will be a little more likely to get involved.

Stick up some of theose posted no tresspassing signs.. and take pics... might help if push comes to shove.. etc.

soundguy

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Vern-MI

03-27-2008 11:01:51

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Moving to a subdivision only insures a higher concentration of the goof balls and goof ball reinforcement(gangs).

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Ron-MO

03-27-2008 10:51:06

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Dean is right on the law - same thing here....I call and they are far too busy to bother. I have decided that in order to get anything done I would have to hold them at gunpoint. Most of the local law enforcement are no better than the ones they are supposed to be protecting us from. 3 cases this last year with law enforcement 'playing' with female inmates, and one where two assulted a property owner after they did not like him watching them harrass kids. Keep after them, they will give in. When I took possession of my property I had parties every weekend down on the creek, sometimes twice a week. Tearing things up, dumping their trash, etc. I started waiting for them to get it going good, then called the sherriffs dept. They do not like the attention and even though it took a while they found a new place to party. Nothing was ever done even though most were minors. They simply told them to leave...thats right, told drunken teenagers to get in the car and leave. Then there are the people who think that because I have a creek it is public property, and they can go where they please. I waited on one guy who was riding his dirt bike in the creek on me and I must say I took some verbal abuse, but I finally told him one of us was leaving be it on foot, ambulance, or hearse, and I wasn't going away peacefully. He decided I was serious, and got his beer and left, and has not been back that I am aware of. Persistence is the key, and you have to be able to outlast them and for them to know it is not in their best interest to keep on coming, and that everytime they come someone will confront them. Make them think there is a crazy man who may kill someone if on his property even if you won't. I also had a few who liked to hunt without permission even though I had posted the property. Their take was that they could 'run their dogs wherever they wanted'. I said no problem, run your dogs, but I will not let you enter my property to retrieve your dogs when they tree something, and it is just a matter of time. I have not seen them back either. It has taken about 5 years, but I am winning the battle. Here in MO you do not have your property posted according to Dept. of Conservation. Being on someone's property without permission is 2nd degree trespass. If it is posted it is 1st degree trespass. But I have found you need to find them on the property and keep them there to get anything done.

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LeeMo

03-27-2008 10:22:22

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Did you know that if you drive nails through a piece of plywood and put some creek gravel or leaves over it that it disappears into the trail that the four wheelers use. Not to say I'd recommend doing that but they didn't come back.

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sgt bull

03-27-2008 10:10:58

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Pete, contact your local State Police Post. Many times, local Sheriff's depts are not as responsive for fear of alienating voters. Generally, State Police personnel don't worry about that. There are a few problems to overcome though. 1. There are only so many police with only so much money in their budgets. This doesn't allow for officers to "sit and watch" locations as long as it may take to catch them redhanded.
2. Even if an officer DOES see them, "catching them" is a bit difficult. Someone on an ATV is pretty tough to chase in a squad car.
3. Generally, in order for criminal trespass to be enforceable, there either has to be prior notice in the form of signs, or documented communication, or an outright refusal to leave.
4. Absent actually "catching" the offender, a signed complaint which SPECIFICALLY identifies the offender may be your only recourse. In that instance, you would be the primary witness if court proceedings were to occur, the police only facilitate it coming to court. As a former local officer, current 20+ year trooper AND a landowner with similar problems and experiences, I'd have to agree that putting out overturned harrows, nails, etc would probably backfire. (even though I've considered it myself!) You can't guard all of your property all of the time, and lowlifes like this seem to have a lot of free time to cause problems..... just my 2 cents.

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Pete in OH

03-27-2008 10:22:13

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to sgt bull, 03-27-2008 10:10:58

I talked to my insurance guy and he assured me that any kind of 'trap' (like nails, spikes, etc) would absolutely make me liable if something were to happen. That could range from me being sued to prison time for me (imagine if one of them fell on a spike). All because these jerks were somehwere they don't belong. I won't be taking the law into my own hands.

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gahorN

03-27-2008 15:08:17

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 10:22:13

Yep. You can't lay a "booby-trap" for them, because it does not discriminate between the trespassers and a lost kid who gets hurt on the devices. As the property owner you are liable if they get hurt due to hazards on your property.

I'd be willing to submit to charges of denying them the use of their property in return for them denying you the pleasure of yours... In other words, rip the spark plug wires, confiscate their 4 wheelers and hold them until they appear in court and post damages to your property. Then return their 4 wheelers complete with spark plug wires.

I have a buddy who was once intimidated by a water-scooter on a public lake who kept running at him while boating, until he put a 9mm thru the scooter's engine. It's been 4 years and he's yet to hear from anyone.
Ahhh. The old west had it's good points.

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Bruce (VA)

03-27-2008 09:43:47

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Check the "Posted" laws in your state. They all vary. In VA, the sign has to be specific & actually 'posted' ever so many feet. Then, when they show up again, call the Sheriff. In VA, it's a felony. If the Sheriff refuses to do his job (it would not be the first time; ours will not enforce the noise ordinance) then go to the magistrate & swear out your own warrant & have it served. Chances are, the cretins will not show up in court. If they don't, then it becomes the court's problem. "Failure to Appear". The Sheriff will enforce that.

Got any DNR offices nearby? Riding in the creek is probably a violation of the Clean Water Act. Regardless, sic the DNR weenies on them. Nothing like a bureaucrat w/ a mission.

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high pockets

03-27-2008 09:30:04

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

the deal with the mail box - contact the postmaster for your area, sheriff's dept too.

trespass through the property & creek - contact the sheriff's dept. They'll probably have you fill out a complaint.... unless you call when when the jerks show up. Call it in and tell them you have someone on the property tearing around and such. if the dept is worth a lick, they'll send someone over pretty quick. Make the call as soon as you hear em show up, and hope the dept shows up quick.

We've had one close call incident. However, my FIL is a retired state trooper (30yrs in, Lt.) and now is a Maj. for the sheriff's dept in our county. It doesn't take much "persuasion" to keep folks off our property.

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Jim.UT

03-27-2008 09:23:59

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

If you can get a photo of them trashing your mailbox with a game camera, then you can go federal. Contact your local postal inspector with your evidence.

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Lumpy

03-27-2008 09:16:34

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

To bad you don't have a small harrow section that you could lay in the creek with the teeth pointing up. I personally took the law in my hands when a similar problem was happening to me. When I stepped out the door with a loaded shot gun and fired into the air they stopped. I walked over and ripped the spark plug wires off their machines, grabbed my cell phone and called the sheriff. They didn't have much to say when he came and impounded their toy's. He had records of my complaints from the past, so wasn't much said. They tried to take me to court to pay for the repairs to their bikes, my lawyer in turn wanted trespassing charges and repair to my property... the judge threw it out.

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old

03-27-2008 08:51:05

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Well if you have a good supply of thorn trees around just cut off a bunch of limbs from them and lay them in there trail. And or post your land and set up game cams to take pictures and then turn them into the law. I have had the same problem and have had the cops out more then once about it and that is what they told me to do. And or even throw out some roofing nails. Funny how after a few flat tires they seem to stay away for a while

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Todd-NY

03-27-2008 08:31:45

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Thats way too bad pete. Such disrespect. Riding recreational vehicles is a privileage and NOT A RIGHT!

Around here I got a guy with land that butts to mine and allows me to ride the trails/roads and field edges that he uses with his tractors. Ofcourse with the understand of staying on those roads and not screwing up the guys crop/fields. As a un asked for courtesy I stop in end of august as to not disrupt deer as he hunts. Too bad cuz with all these we've come quite neighborly. I gave him a plow and a hand fixing some fencing and he has helped me fix my N.

These punks coulda made a freind instead of being pests!!

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Upper Peninsula, Mi.

03-27-2008 08:27:50

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Pete. I was lucky and let the 4 wheelers know I didn't want them on the property and they quit. You've got a serious problem. I use game cameras at my camp and they work good. Cablea's and Gander Mtn.have Infared digitel cameras on sale right now for $119. The flash because it's infared does not show up.I have one and they take good black and white pictures. I have a 2G card in mine and its good for around 7,000 pictures before it's filled up. Take some picturea for the Prosecutor, but DON'T try to take the law in your own hands. I feel for you. Good luck. Ron

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Pete in OH

03-27-2008 08:46:39

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Upper Peninsula, Mi., 03-27-2008 08:27:50

Game cameras? I had never heard of such a thing. If the 4-wheelers keep it up maybe one hidden by the mailbox and one along the creek will get me the proof I need to put a stop to this. Thanks for the idea!

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Dean

03-27-2008 07:52:51

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

That's a tough one, Pete.

Im most areas the local authorities do not want to get involved with trespass actions. Could it be that there are too many donuts to eat and too much coffee to drink? Sorry, I digress.

In my area, the Sheriff will not arrest anyone for tresspass unless you confront the trespasser, demand that he leave, he will not, and is still there when the deputy arrives. Of course, that is unlikely. After the first call, they will not even respond in my area.

Given the circumstances, I think Hobo's plan is much more likely to work but I would expect vandalism in return.

Dean

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JMOR

03-27-2008 07:22:41

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Dan, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Things are not always the same in every state, but here, the sheriff had me contact the county prosecutor. County prosecutor said file the complaint and he would prosecute for illegal trespass. I informed the trespassers of same and trespassing stopped. Never had to file the complaint.

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Hobo,NC

03-27-2008 07:03:50

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Once word gits out ride'n in that creek will punch holes in yer tires it will soon B avoided,,, believe me BTDT

They will avoid your property altogether figger'in its not worth make'in their tires look like a rag mop wif all the tire plugs they have to install to keep air in'em

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roger 52

03-27-2008 06:54:42

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Re: OT: what to do about unwelcomed 4-wheeler riders in reply to Pete in OH, 03-27-2008 06:48:07

Isn't defacing a mailbox a federal offense? Contact the sheriff or police in your area. Post no trespassing signs and put up barbed wire with strimmers on them to stop losing your animals.

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