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award

04-01-2008 10:06:17

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Here is the 10-156 plow with 14" bottoms. This is the one that tracts so far off.

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JMOR

04-01-2008 20:38:10

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to osduck5, 04-01-2008 10:06:17

award said: (quoted from post at 23:08:39 04/01/08) alright guys i think i understand now. what i will do is get the puppy on the tractor and string the forward landshare and adjust so that the string is 6" off center towards the inside front right tire. seems to me though that this would really put pressure on the lower links and want to turn the front of the tractor to the operators right. i guess it is a 14" plow but how can you really tell?

That angle will try to turn the tractor to the left, countering the rolling of the soil to the right, which wants to turn the tractor to the right. What you are after is the balance point where one cancels the other.

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JMOR

04-01-2008 17:59:10

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to JMOR, 04-01-2008 10:06:17

award said: (quoted from post at 13:06:17 04/01/08) Here is the 10-156 plow with 14" bottoms. This is the one that tracts so far off.

Don't know if this will clarify any or not, but it can't hurt. All the following should be read, keeping the yellow bar stationary in your mind's eye.

What folks are trying to get across is that adjusting the "J-bolt" will move the whole plow assembly left or right on the yellow bar & when this is moved, since yellow bar is curved (bent), then as assembly is moved left/right, then the plows themselves will have their pointing angle changed to point more toward either toward the right front of tractor or toward the left front of tractor.
Viewing your picture, you should be able to visualize that if J-bolt outside nut is loosened such as to run nut all the way toward the left side of picture, then the whole plow assy will rotate clockwise (as it slides across the yellow bar toward the left side of photo), thus point the front tips of the plows more toward the tractors right front tire.
HTH

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Brian Bell

04-01-2008 17:24:40

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to award, 04-01-2008 10:06:17

It doesn't appear that anyone has posted this link yet. Take a look, it may help. Also, it looks like the draw bar is bent in the middle. That could come into play as well.

How to Plow courtesy of Hobo and Zane

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duey

04-01-2008 18:08:40

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to Brian Bell, 04-01-2008 17:24:40

Brian, The bend you describe is essential to the tracking adjustment... it really needs to be there.. IMO

duey

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Dave Sherburne NY

04-01-2008 16:56:36

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to award, 04-01-2008 10:06:17

Where ever there is a z in the link leave it out

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Dave Sherburne NY

04-01-2008 16:54:11

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to award, 04-01-2008 10:06:17

Your picture looks like there is a piece bolted on wrong. Check under manuals
for Dearborn 10-152 12" Moldboard Plow - Parts Manual The piece on the right in your photo looks
like it may be on wrong Won't let me post the link

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Dean

04-01-2008 14:43:20

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to award, 04-01-2008 10:06:17

Award:

Adjusting the "J" bolt on your 10-156 Dearborn Economy plow serves the same function as adjusting the eccentric on the earlier Dearborn plows. This adjusts the width of cut of the left (leading) bottom, i.e., tracking.

I have two plows like yours, including a 2x14 10-156, and your "J" bolt appears to be well out of adjustment as compared to that of mine that "tracks" correctly. Mine is adjusted such that the end of the "J" bolt extends only 1 or 2 threads beyond the surface of the nut.

Hope this helps.

Dean

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award

04-01-2008 15:39:53

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to Dean, 04-01-2008 14:43:20

dean, do i tried to adjust it and it is EXTREMELY difficult to get it to budge. the heavy bracket between the beams has 2 bolts per beam. i don't see how it would be allowed to even budge. also, it is the same distance between the beams front and back. would i have to loosen any other bolts prior to adjusting like you say?

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Dean

04-01-2008 17:50:19

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to award, 04-01-2008 15:39:53

Award:

Adjusting the 2 nuts on the "L" bolt simply moves the rectangular drawbar beam side to side relative to the plow frame.

Because the rectangular drawbar beam is formed with different angles on each side relative to the "A" frame, this affects the furrow width of the plow, i.e., tracking. It's an ingeniously simple concept.

Adjusting the 2 nuts does not change the spacing between the 2 plow beams. Ignore the rod connecting the 2 beams together.

Your plow does appear to be in order but out of adjustment if a 2x14".

Dean

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award

04-01-2008 15:41:34

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to award, 04-01-2008 15:39:53

also, what about the rod between the beams in front of where the lower arms hook on. will that even allow ANY inward travel of the beams?

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Dean

04-01-2008 14:47:03

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to Dean, 04-01-2008 14:43:20

Sorry, I meant to say "right (leading) bottom".

Dean

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award

04-01-2008 12:59:55

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to award, 04-01-2008 10:06:17

and in this photo in the red rectangular box it shows the rod traveling between the the two main beams. I don't think this allows any pivoting(unless it is seized up). In the smaller red box the bracket that holds the two main beams apart won't allow any adjustment either. study the photo and see what i mean.

also, there is 20 1/2" distance from inside of rt. rear wheel to the center of the tractor. if i run a string along the front landslide forward of the tractor can i measure from the string to the inside of the rt rear tire and it should be 20 1/2" also?

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duey

04-01-2008 12:28:49

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to award, 04-01-2008 10:06:17

Award, In looking at the picture, it would seem that the adjustment you need to make is the 'J' bolt... I would start by losening the inside lock nut a half inch... then tighten the outside nut down snug. Try the plow... it should be worse or better...BETTER I'm thinking. That should 'steer' the plow to the left and reduce or eliminate the lead it has...

Won't hurt anything to try and see. Or go back the other way, but that looks wrong to me...

Post back.... duey

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8N'r--WI

04-01-2008 11:30:02

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to award, 04-01-2008 10:06:17

Award---I looked at your previous post and didn"t see if you mentioned that your plow has or doesn"t have a "tail wheel" on it.

You can"t see one in your picture. Your moldboards push/turn dirt to the right. The tail wheel pushes up against the furrow and helps to keep the plow running straight.

Does yours have the tail wheel?

Tim

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award

04-01-2008 11:39:51

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to 8N'r--WI, 04-01-2008 11:30:02

yes, it has a tail wheel.

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award

04-01-2008 20:08:39

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to award, 04-01-2008 11:39:51

alright guys i think i understand now. what i will do is get the puppy on the tractor and string the forward landshare and adjust so that the string is 6" off center towards the inside front right tire. seems to me though that this would really put pressure on the lower links and want to turn the front of the tractor to the operators right. i guess it is a 14" plow but how can you really tell?

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award

04-01-2008 20:53:56

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Re: plow pics/setup??? in reply to award, 04-01-2008 20:08:39

ok, i got out the original owners manual. for a 14" 2 bottom plow, it says there should be 3 1/2" on each end of the cross shaft. obviously the photo of the plow in the owners manual is not the same as my plow. my plow looks like it will have more than 3 1/2" exposed if i center the shaft. maybe that is a good starting point but i know for a fact theat s.o.b. does not want to budge much at all. i think mostly it is trying to turn those nuts on the j bolt, even with a penetrating fluid. we'll see what i come up with.

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