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Longevity of tractors

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GA Dave

04-09-2008 19:17:19




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I,m going to post this on the IH forum also. L-R 1949 Ford 8N 59 years old, 1958 International 240 Utility 50 years old and 2008 Kubota L2800 < 1 year old. Which one will be around in 2108? David.third party image




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MR in MN

04-12-2008 07:22:12




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to GA Dave, 04-09-2008 19:17:19  
All three will be around, but to get gas for them, you will have to licensed by the government to handle flamable, hazardous materials. You"ll need a collectors license, and will limited to a single vehicle, and to a certain number of gallons per year. You will need a government approved storage facility for your gas, and will have to pay to have it inspected yearly. Hope I"m wrong, but the way things are going, who knows.

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sgt bull

04-10-2008 19:48:05




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to GA Dave, 04-09-2008 19:17:19  
last I heard on the science channel, we're supposed to have exhausted our supply of oil by 2057. Maybe sooner w/ all these Chinamen figuring out its nicer to drive a car than walk and run a tractor instead of a buffalo....so the view that parts will be incredibly expensive may be 180 degrees off... these things may be absolutely worthless... they aren't very much use w/ no gas.....Of course, I'm guessing the Kubota is a diesel, so it'll be running on used frying oil!

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Sean (TX)

04-10-2008 18:11:39




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to GA Dave, 04-09-2008 19:17:19  
The N probably has an edge not only because of the number made but more importantly it's got a "cult" following that will leave no stone unturned.

TOH

PS - "Plastic" don't rust and it's cheap and easy to clone....[/quote]

You got that right...always looking..One around every other corner...Saved one...Going to get it up and running :)



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Jerry/MT

04-10-2008 09:37:28




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to GA Dave, 04-09-2008 19:17:19  
If you have enough money to maintain them, they will all be around!



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Mr. Hagen

04-10-2008 07:24:03




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to GA Dave, 04-09-2008 19:17:19  
They will all be around. There will be no gas for them



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MIDennis

04-10-2008 06:00:14




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to GA Dave, 04-09-2008 19:17:19  
As long as there are CNC machines, any part you want will be available if you have the money and the old one for a starting place pattern.



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Dave 2N

04-10-2008 05:57:45




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to GA Dave, 04-09-2008 19:17:19  
I suspect all of them will be around.



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TheOldHokie

04-10-2008 04:40:57




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to GA Dave, 04-09-2008 19:17:19  

GA Dave said: (quoted from post at 19:17:19 04/09/08) I,m going to post this on the IH forum also. L-R 1949 Ford 8N 59 years old, 1958 International 240 Utility 50 years old and 2008 Kubota L2800 < 1 year old. Which one will be around in 2108? David.third party image


I suspect none - give me a call and let me know how it came out.

TOH

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GA Dave

04-10-2008 17:34:47




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to TheOldHokie, 04-10-2008 04:40:57  
TOH, as much as I like them all I,m betting on the 8N based on the sheer numbers produced. Only a little over 10,000 of the 240 U not counting the 240 row crop. Plastic will not last. I'm older than any of them but I'll give you a call in about a hundred years anyway. David.



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TheOldHokie

04-10-2008 18:08:37




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to GA Dave, 04-10-2008 17:34:47  

GA Dave said: (quoted from post at 17:34:47 04/10/08) TOH, as much as I like them all I,m betting on the 8N based on the sheer numbers produced. Only a little over 10,000 of the 240 U not counting the 240 row crop. Plastic will not last. I'm older than any of them but I'll give you a call in about a hundred years anyway. David.


The N probably has an edge not only because of the number made but more importantly it's got a "cult" following that will leave no stone unturned.

TOH

PS - "Plastic" don't rust and it's cheap and easy to clone....

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ericlb

04-10-2008 03:29:04




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to GA Dave, 04-09-2008 19:17:19  
the ford will be here, every part is avalible now from one source or another, if your resoucefull the ih will still be running too, it wont hurt to buy a "parts tractor" to suport it if you run accross one, but im thinking somebody will start producing parts for the older ih's and they will become more available than they are even now, they are really good tractors, the wheels on the orange one will be here, probably serving as bases for bench grinders ect,hte rest will have quit over 60 years before and been either screpped out or stuffed in a fence row somewhere, it looks nice enjoy it al long as you can

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Gary,kansas

04-09-2008 22:51:36




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to GA Dave, 04-09-2008 19:17:19  
Checked the other site, seems there is no support. I guess that should indicate the answer, this from someone who use to wear red underwear.However I sure like the looks of that 240.



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heybusdriver

04-09-2008 22:39:16




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to GA Dave, 04-09-2008 19:17:19  
By 2108, none, by that time some-one will have invented something new. More unemployment.

Stan
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award

04-09-2008 20:11:39




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to GA Dave, 04-09-2008 19:17:19  
man i wish i had that 240



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Dunk

04-09-2008 19:49:12




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to GA Dave, 04-09-2008 19:17:19  
As long as they are kept up, every wearing part on an 8N Ford tractor is replaceable.



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Dan

04-10-2008 04:45:43




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to Dunk, 04-09-2008 19:49:12  
The reason every wearing part is available now is because there are so many in service still the demand is there for these parts. With the rate I am seeing perfectly good and running 9N/2N/8N tractors being parted out just for cash, I'll bet it is not too long before manufacturers stop making these parts...

It really strikes me wrong when I see an eBay ad that says "was running fine before we tore it apart".

Dan

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TheOldHokie

04-10-2008 05:10:00




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to Dan, 04-10-2008 04:45:43  

Dan said: (quoted from post at 04:45:43 04/10/08) The reason every wearing part is available now is because there are so many in service still the demand is there for these parts. With the rate I am seeing perfectly good and running 9N/2N/8N tractors being parted out just for cash, I'll bet it is not too long before manufacturers stop making these parts...

It really strikes me wrong when I see an eBay ad that says "was running fine before we tore it apart".

Dan


They are being parted out for cash because many of the parts are NLA new. Because they were made in large numbers there's still a lot of dead and dieing donor machines owned by folks who aren't diehard collectors keeping the others running. And yes - the new parts supply is diminishing as well. Both of those sources are going to dry up a LOT in the next 100 years.

TOH

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souNdguy

04-10-2008 06:41:46




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 Re: Longevity of tractors in reply to TheOldHokie, 04-10-2008 05:10:00  
I'm not fond of parting runners. ( parts tractors.. ok.. ).. eventuially there will be a time that will come when salvage machines will be the only source of some important parts.. prices will go thru the roof then..

soundguy



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