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Too Tall

04-16-2008 07:45:27




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Last night I picked up a bunch of spare parts for my 48 8N. One of the parts was similar to the swinging drawbar below, with some notable differences.

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The one I picked up mounts under the differential, as the photo shows, but is not removable, it's fixed. The one in the photo has a pin that attaches to remove the bar that attaches to the 11 hole drawbar, I think?
This piece came off of an 8N. But I’m not sure if this is an 8N part or something someone modified to fit?

Anyone have anything like this on their N?

Does it get in the way of implements?
I can try to post a photo today or tomorrow if that will help...

Thanks,

TooTall

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JMOR

04-16-2008 11:15:44




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 Re: New parts question (another 'use') in reply to Too Tall, 04-16-2008 07:45:27  
Entertainment:

With bar in swing free mode, hitch it to a tung steered 4 wheel hay wagon and ask a city boy to back it up for you. hehe!

Not too many real uses on Ns if all your implements are 3-point.



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JMOR

04-16-2008 11:10:43




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 Re: New parts question (swinging DB use) in reply to Too Tall, 04-16-2008 07:45:27  
Seen on the postings before:
The following is from a Farmall owners manual.
" The swinging drawbar is free to swing the full width of the regular drawber, making it easier to turn the tractor under load whan pulling trail-behind implements like disc harrows. It also facilitates steering on the straightaway when the tractor is pulling a very heavy load. The load exerts less sideways pull on the tractor and therefore interfers less with the steering. This attachment is especially desireable when working in small, irregular shaped fields"

and..... .
If you were doing soil preparation such as disking, harrowing etc
and dragging unmounted implements you want the drawbar to swing for ease in tight corners.
Some pull implements also reguired and off-set to the drawbar so you could lock it right or left of center.
Basically the swinging allows tighter corners before the implement rides up on the rear tire.

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Too Tall

04-16-2008 09:28:12




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 Re: New parts question in reply to Too Tall, 04-16-2008 07:45:27  
Can this be used as is, or does it need some additional support from that ring that goes around the PTO as seen in the image Dell posted?

Thanks,

TooTall



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LeeMo

04-16-2008 11:33:20




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 Re: New parts question in reply to Too Tall, 04-16-2008 09:28:12  
With the size of the bolts that hold it under the differential I'd expect it would hold a lot without the other support.



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Too Tall

04-16-2008 08:48:31




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 Re: New parts question in reply to Too Tall, 04-16-2008 07:45:27  
Dell,

Thanks for the extra explanation. It helps some, as I'm beginning to think this is something someone made. This new part looks something like this:

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Anyone seen anything like this?
Thanks,

TooTall



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LeeMo

04-16-2008 09:19:49




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 Re: New parts question in reply to Too Tall, 04-16-2008 08:48:31  
Yep, I have one at home that's similar. It was originally a regular swinging drawbar but apparently someone decided to weld a different piece of stock to it when the original bar went missing. Should actually work OK.



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Dell (WA)

04-16-2008 08:19:04




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 Re: New parts question in reply to Too Tall, 04-16-2008 07:45:27  
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TooTall..... ..the swinging drawbar that you show is EARLY version with under PTO swinging pin and supported by ROLLING along the 11-hole drawbar. It works on 9N/2N's too. This picture shows the rolling drawbar "PINNED" by bolts so it don't swing too much.

Why do you need to swing? Pretty handy when pulling old horsedrawn implements. Old horsedrawn implements usually have adjustable harness bars called "eveners" so you can match unequal horsepower to pull straight ahead. (not all horses are equal) You can match a 10-hand donkey with 16-hand mule to pull plow straight; or a 14-hand saddlebred with 20-hand Percheron. Ah, the power of leverage.

The modern swinging drawbar (pictured) is for the under-the-diffy 8N ONLY. It has a removable "pin" in the rectangular diffy block so that you can slide or remove the cranked pullbar. You DO NOT use the 11-hole drawbar with this style of swinging drawbar..... ..Dell

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Gaspump

04-16-2008 10:48:50




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 Re: New parts question in reply to Dell (WA), 04-16-2008 08:19:04  
Just for your info the swinging drawbars were intended to be used with more modern implements than hores drawn. Ford Tractor sold no horse drawn implements. Also, the turning radius with the swinging drawbar in use is reduced.



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Stuffy8n

04-17-2008 04:42:41




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 Re: New parts question in reply to Gaspump, 04-16-2008 10:48:50  
Mr. Gaspump,

Mr. 4 Degree's has "4" degree's and has stated that he is much smarter than us so on that note "He Must Be Right" (Although, I agree with you)



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