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1949 Ford 8N won't start!!!

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49' 8N

04-18-2008 14:13:21




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Purchased a 1949 ford 8N two years ago. Front mount distrubitor, 6 volt system. Always had trouble starting it, but it would eventullaly start. last summer, while driving it, it died. No sputtering no stalling completely dead. One minute spark, next none. Tried on numerous occasions to restart no good. Left alone for the winter.

I just replaced igniton wires, spark plugs, rebuilt distrubitor, rebuilt carb. Engine cranks fine, getting spark, getting fuel won"t start????

What"s my next step, coil???

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Dell (WA)

04-18-2008 19:53:51




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 Re: 1949 Ford 8N won't start!!! in reply to 49' 8N, 04-18-2008 14:13:21  
49er..... .yer next step??? Prove you ain't floggin' a dead horse.

Do the dreaded "compression test". Ford specs: 90psi min (dry). Then do a "wet" compression test after squirting about 1-oz of oil down the sparkie hole to seal the piston rings. Write all the numbers down and we'll help you interpret them. 'course you could also read the compression gauge instructions too. (compression gauge $25, cheap, engine rebuild $1500)

There is alotta reasons why yer engine quit on you last summer and alotta reasons why you can't gitter started this spring and the guys have given you good advice....but....COMPRESSION TEST will help us all give you better advice..... .Dell

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trucker40

04-18-2008 19:35:03




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 Re: 1949 Ford 8N won't start!!! in reply to 49' 8N, 04-18-2008 14:13:21  
My guess would be try some new or different plugs.I dont know why,but plugs can get to where they dont fire good enough,or gas fouled,and you cant really see anything wrong with them.You can heat them up with a torch if nothing else,and burn the gas off of them maybe.



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Hobo,NC

04-18-2008 18:40:09




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 Re: 1949 Ford 8N won't start!!! in reply to 49' 8N, 04-18-2008 14:13:21  
Mite as well throw a coil at it,,,weak spark kin fool a very trained eye,,, a coil can B very difficult to nail down as bad/weak

This is considering the internal werk'ns of the engine are in good werk'n order



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Bruce (VA)

04-18-2008 18:16:33




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 Re: 1949 Ford 8N won't start!!! in reply to 49' 8N, 04-18-2008 14:13:21  
It takes three things for an engine to run: spark at the right time, compression, & fuel in the right mixture. Lets start w/ spark. Remove a plug, or use an old one, ground it to the head, connect a plug wire, turn the key on & crank it. If you have a fat, bright blue spark, you are good to go. If you do not have a bright blue spark, post back & you will get plenty of help.

Next, lets consider fuel. Been setting a while? Water in the gas? Maybe you forgot to put Stabil in the tank & the carb is gummed up. But, first things first....remove the bolt at the bottom of the carb, turn the fuel on & check for flow. As long as the gas is turned on at the sediment bowl, you should have a good flow of fuel. Next thing, get a can of starting fluid, remove the breather hose, turn the key on & crank the engine. After it turns over a few times, spray some fluid in the carb. Leave the choke alone! If it fires but won't start.... chances are it's carb cleaning time.

It could be compression.....while that's not the likely problem....do a compression check on the engine. You will need a gauge to do it, but save that test for last.

Another likely problem is dirty grounds & worn or undersized battery cables. A 6v system is very intolerant of bad grounds. Make sure you are using 1 or 0 gauge new cables. Disconnect every cable in the entire starting circuit & clean the connections bright & shiny. Carefully pull the starter away from the block about 1 inch & clean the mating surfaces.

You can always try to jump start it w/ a 12v battery; see tip # 43 at the link below for the safe way to do that.

Another possibility is a vacuum leak. With the engine running, spray WD-40 or a hand held propane tank around the manifold; if the engine speeds up, you found the leak.

Another slim possibility is a dragging starter. Lots of folks (myself included) will not notice that the starter is turning slower & slower over time, even though the battery is fully charged. So, after you have replaced the battery cables, cleaned all the connections & fully charged the battery, you could have a starter going bad. Put that possibility on the bottom of the list, though.

Lastly, one of the most common causes of a hard to start engine is excessive use of the choke. While some tractors do require a little bit of choke, no properly tuned engine w/ a good carb is going to need full choke for 4 or 5 seconds to start. All that does is flood the engine, cover the plugs w/ raw gas & prevent it from getting enough spark to start. So, keep your hand off the choke.

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Tom N MS

04-18-2008 15:38:06




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 Re: 1949 Ford 8N won't start!!! in reply to 49' 8N, 04-18-2008 14:13:21  
I'd definitely replace the points and condenser before going any further.Points set on .015..plugs set at .025..



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