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Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small?

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patrick 2N MD.

05-04-2008 06:33:26

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OT. Hi guys. Just wanted to share some pics of my truck. I made this hitch coupler up just to be different! And yes they are real K5LA horns on top! This is the truck I use to pull my 2N with, and to haul firewood in the bed while pulling a loaded trailer. I like to use it, not drive it around like a car. Hope the pics made someone smile.

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OKDAD

05-06-2008 19:06:01

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to Widget, 05-04-2008 06:33:26

I couldn't agree more! One question...how much does it weigh?

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patrick 2N MD.

05-07-2008 03:07:04

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to OKDAD, 05-06-2008 19:06:01

I am not sure yet but I think 250 - 300 LBS.

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Dunk

05-06-2008 04:43:08

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to elijah, 05-04-2008 06:33:26

gahorN said: (quoted from post at 13:03:44 05/05/08) There isn't a single Chebby part in that Samson. Chebby didn't make that tractor. They only bought the line and when it FAILED (like all Chebby's) they used the facility to do something else. Ford designed his own tractors and used Ford parts to make them in a Ford plant using Ford employees. (just keeping things stirred up.) :twisted:

I will have to assume that you don't read, you just think you know it all...

Here is one of my prievous posts.

Durant's Iron Horse, the Samson Model D, used the 26hp, 171-cu.in., four-cylinder gasoline engine from the Chevrolet 490, a transmission belt drive, independent controls for each side of the tractor and chain-and-sprocket drive to all four wheels. It weighed in at 1,900 pounds. Initial advertisements priced it at $630, but when it went on sale in 1919, it carried a $450 price tag. A photo in Gustin's book shows Durant personally demonstrating the Model D at the 1919 New Jersey state fair in Trenton.
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OKDAD

05-05-2008 22:05:57

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to GB in MT., 05-04-2008 06:33:26

OK...I can play too. You're both wrong!

REAL tractors (and locomotives) run on STEAM. :twisted:

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patrick 2N MD.

05-06-2008 04:18:09

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to OKDAD, 05-05-2008 22:05:57

I could not agree with you more!!! That coupler came from Strausburg RR in PA where they only run steam! The guys ( jim and kelly) up there gave it to me to cut down to make a hitch out of they thought it would be great.

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gahorN

05-05-2008 09:03:44

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to patrick 2N MD., 05-04-2008 06:33:26

There isn't a single Chebby part in that Samson. Chebby didn't make that tractor. They only bought the line and when it FAILED (like all Chebby's) they used the facility to do something else. Ford designed his own tractors and used Ford parts to make them in a Ford plant using Ford employees. (just keeping things stirred up.) :twisted:

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Sean (TX)

05-04-2008 18:56:43

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to Dell (WA), 05-04-2008 06:33:26

Interesting tractor...Guess chevy couldnt hang with the big boys...They did make some nice car and truck engines :) 327 for one

Dunk said: (quoted from post at 19:27:08 05/04/08)
Sean (TX) said: (quoted from post at 21:06:03 05/04/08)
Dunk said: (quoted from post at 19:03:02 05/04/08) My posts prove that Chevy DID make tractors!!

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John (TR)

05-04-2008 18:53:11

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to patrick 2N MD., 05-04-2008 06:33:26

As a railrod enthusiast, I love it. Was it std gauge or a narrow gauge coupler?

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patrick 2N MD.

05-05-2008 02:56:44

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to John (TR), 05-04-2008 18:53:11

It is a standard gauge goulds coupler and has a pattend date of may 18, 1916

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Dunk

05-04-2008 17:58:36

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to patrick 2N MD., 05-04-2008 06:33:26

$33,000,000.00 was lost on the Samson venture and the plug was pulled on the whole operation in 1923 and the Janesville assembly plant was turned over to Chevrolet where full size Chevrolet and GMC SUV�s are still built today.
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Dunk

05-04-2008 17:55:48

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to patrick 2N MD., 05-04-2008 06:33:26

Not the best ever photograph of this rare tractor but the best I got from the show...

Text from the Pioneer Acres website (about the above tractor):

RARE GMC TRACTOR

July 5, 1999

Pioneer Acres will be showing off its 1918 Samson Sieve-Grip tractor in the vintage machinery section of the 1999 Calgary Exhibition and Stampede (July 9 - 18). It will then be moved to the Museum for permanent display and demonstration.

This unusual three-wheeled tractor is one of only 7 or 8 remaining in North America. It was manufactured by the Samson Tractor Company of Stockton, California. When Ford went into the tractor business GMC felt the need to make tractors of their own to remain competitive. Rather then start from scratch in the tractor business, GMC bought out Samson. This resulted in the manufacture of only about 140 model 30 X GMC Samson Sieve Grips.

The name Sieve-Grip comes from the tractor's huge steel wheels which utilize metal cleats for traction. When cultivating, the open construction of these wheels help to break up the ground instead of packing it. It was intentionally built low to go under fruit trees in orchards. A seated driver cannot see the front wheel over the long hood. A large arrow is attached to the steering mechanism to indicate the direction of the front wheel.

The 5,800-pound beast is powered by a gargantuan 425-cubic-inch inline four cylinder gasoline engine equipped with a unique Remy electric governor (early form of cruise control). Also out of the ordinary is a water-filled air cleaner descriptively labelled Nodust Moisto Rizer. Top speed is 3.5 miles per hour and the braking system is rudimentary metal-to-metal. The clutch is virtually identical to steam-driven tractors of the era.

This rare tractor has been restored during the past winter and spring. It was purchased in the 1960's by a Pioneer Acres member who spent the rest of his life collecting parts for it. Unfortunately, by the time he had everything he needed he was ill with cancer and passed away in the fall of 1998. The project was completed in his memory by a long-time friend who is also a member of the Club. Some parts had to be hand-fabricated.

Many Samson/GMC Sieve-Grips were used in Western Canada as well as in the U.S.
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Dunk

05-04-2008 17:27:08

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to Dunk, 05-04-2008 06:33:26

Sean (TX) said: (quoted from post at 21:06:03 05/04/08)
Dunk said: (quoted from post at 19:03:02 05/04/08) My posts prove that Chevy DID make tractors!!

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Fitter Roger

05-04-2008 17:14:06

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to patrick 2N MD., 05-04-2008 06:33:26

If your close to Janesville Wi. I can give you the phone number to set up a plant tour. On the tour there is a restored Samson sitting in the lobby. I could try to get a photo of it but cameras are forbidden in the plant and it"s close to the guards station.

Roger

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Sean (TX)

05-04-2008 17:06:03

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to Dunk, 05-04-2008 06:33:26

Dunk said: (quoted from post at 19:03:02 05/04/08) My posts prove that Chevy DID make tractors!!

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Dunk

05-04-2008 17:03:02

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to patrick 2N MD., 05-04-2008 06:33:26

My posts prove that Chevy DID make tractors!!

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Dunk

05-04-2008 16:58:46

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to Dunk, 05-04-2008 06:33:26

Sean (TX) said: (quoted from post at 20:53:20 05/04/08)
gahorN said: (quoted from post at 13:25:21 05/04/08)
Dunk said: (quoted from post at 09:14:16 05/04/08) Looks to me like your hitch would pull a train, with a tractor on top of it..

I think I would trade that Ford truck for a Chevy before I tried that though. :)

Chebby din't make tractors so I don't waste my money on their trucks.

LOL!! Me to!! We have 4 Fords. The 9N and 2N will out live the car and truck!! LOL

I think that I proved that GMC, even using Chevy engines, did make tractors, at the plant that still makes GMC/Chevy trucks/SUVs

My '88 Blazer that I bought new has around 500,000 miles.

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Sean (TX)

05-04-2008 16:53:20

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to gshadel, 05-04-2008 06:33:26

gahorN said: (quoted from post at 13:25:21 05/04/08)
Dunk said: (quoted from post at 09:14:16 05/04/08) Looks to me like your hitch would pull a train, with a tractor on top of it..

I think I would trade that Ford truck for a Chevy before I tried that though. :)

Chebby din't make tractors so I don't waste my money on their trucks.

LOL!! Me to!! We have 4 Fords. The 9N and 2N will out live the car and truck!! LOL

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Dunk

05-04-2008 16:47:17

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to patrick 2N MD., 05-04-2008 06:33:26

Thanks TOH, after I went back and read it for the umptheenth time, even after your last post I found it.

Yep, it was me that was missing it.

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Dunk

05-04-2008 16:34:14

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to Dunk, 05-04-2008 06:33:26

JOHN HUNT said: (quoted from post at 20:16:56 05/04/08) get you a lowboy trailer and truck would be a whole cheaper

What is the lowboy trailer for, John!?!?!?!?!!?

Did I miss something?!?!?!

Or did you?

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john hunt

05-04-2008 18:43:34

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to Dunk, 05-04-2008 16:34:14

TheOldHokie 05-04-2008 14:24:25
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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to patrick 2N MD., 05-04-2008 06:33:26

patrick 2N MD. said: (quoted from post at 06:33:26 05/04/08) OT. Hi guys. Just wanted to share some pics of my truck. I made this hitch coupler up just to be different! And yes they are real K5LA horns on top! This is the truck I use to pull my 2N with, and to haul firewood in the bed while pulling a loaded trailer. I like to use it, not drive it around like a car. Hope the pics made someone smile.

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Hmmmm... Patrick, how far are you from Boonsboro? Got a friend at work who just bought an old caboose and is working on getting it moved from B'boro to Walkersville. I was thinking we jack it up and set some rubber tired trucks under each end and you hitch up and go.....

TOH

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TheOldHokie

05-04-2008 16:41:54

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to Dunk, 05-04-2008 16:34:14

Dunk said: (quoted from post at 16:34:14 05/04/08)
JOHN HUNT said: (quoted from post at 20:16:56 05/04/08) get you a lowboy trailer and truck would be a whole cheaper

What is the lowboy trailer for, John!?!?!?!?!!?

Did I miss something?!?!?!

Or did you?

I think he missed the tongue in my cheek ;-)

TOH

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TheOldHokie

05-04-2008 14:24:25

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to patrick 2N MD., 05-04-2008 06:33:26

patrick 2N MD. said: (quoted from post at 06:33:26 05/04/08) OT. Hi guys. Just wanted to share some pics of my truck. I made this hitch coupler up just to be different! And yes they are real K5LA horns on top! This is the truck I use to pull my 2N with, and to haul firewood in the bed while pulling a loaded trailer. I like to use it, not drive it around like a car. Hope the pics made someone smile.

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JOHN HUNT

05-04-2008 16:16:56

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to TheOldHokie, 05-04-2008 14:24:25

get you a lowboy trailer and truck would be a whole cheaper

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Dunk

05-04-2008 12:38:20

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to patrick 2N MD., 05-04-2008 06:33:26

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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: GMC Samson Sieve Grip Tractor
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I just saw your post a fell out of my chair at lunch time. I'm at work in the original Samson Tractor factory. Still building trucks for GM. We have a restored Samson Tractor sitting in the lobby up front. I'm at The Janesville Wi, GM truck plant and we don't see many references to anything Samson on the net. Too bad I missed the Ebay auction.
Thanks for the flashback though!
Roger

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Dunk

05-04-2008 12:25:59

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to patrick 2N MD., 05-04-2008 06:33:26

Durant's Iron Horse, the Samson Model D, used the 26hp, 171-cu.in., four-cylinder gasoline engine from the Chevrolet 490, a transmission belt drive, independent controls for each side of the tractor and chain-and-sprocket drive to all four wheels. It weighed in at 1,900 pounds. Initial advertisements priced it at $630, but when it went on sale in 1919, it carried a $450 price tag. A photo in Gustin's book shows Durant personally demonstrating the Model D at the 1919 New Jersey state fair in Trenton.
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05-04-2008 11:40:58

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to Mike LW, 05-04-2008 06:33:26

gahorN said: (quoted from post at 15:25:21 05/04/08)
Dunk said: (quoted from post at 09:14:16 05/04/08) Looks to me like your hitch would pull a train, with a tractor on top of it..

I think I would trade that Ford truck for a Chevy before I tried that though. :)

Chebby din't make tractors so I don't waste my money on their trucks.

1917 GMC Samson Tractor Model 10-29
This is one of two Pontiac Michigan-built 1917 GMC Samson Tractors built by General Motors Truck Company following the acquisition by General Motors of the Samson Sieve-Grip Tractor Company of Stockton California.

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Dunk

05-04-2008 09:41:15

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to Jim Holtby, 05-04-2008 06:33:26

ericlb said: (quoted from post at 10:46:37 05/04/08) uuhh.. i believe that just might do the job! got any more of those horns? the ones on my kw are a little "soft" i needs more volume

They don't seem to be reasonably priced, although I did find a discount on them.

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Hobo,NC

05-04-2008 10:12:57

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to Dunk, 05-04-2008 09:41:15

You Save: $915.01 (39%) ,,, The price of fun,, tot tot,,, I have installed simi truck horns on pic'em ups,,, they shore nuff need a good air supply or they will B short winded,,, for some reason they seam to B required for folks pull'n horses around here,,, King of the road folks I recon

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patrick 2N MD.

05-04-2008 14:24:35

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to Hobo,NC, 05-04-2008 10:12:57

There are 40 inch grover horns underneath too. I put the train horns on top because I am into steam whistles and some horns. The horns take way less air than steam whistles do. I have 30 gallons of air. It is plenty to blow for a minuate or more.

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gahorN

05-04-2008 21:35:16

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to patrick 2N MD., 05-04-2008 14:24:35

[img]http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:arp8JT8K-WjR_M:http://www.gmphotostore.com/images/53216874[/img]

That wasn't a Chebby. it was a GM-purchased Samson.

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Dunk

05-04-2008 09:14:16

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to patrick 2N MD., 05-04-2008 06:33:26

Looks to me like your hitch would pull a train, with a tractor on top of it..

I think I would trade that Ford truck for a Chevy before I tried that though. :)

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gahorN

05-04-2008 11:25:21

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to Dunk, 05-04-2008 09:14:16

Dunk said: (quoted from post at 09:14:16 05/04/08) Looks to me like your hitch would pull a train, with a tractor on top of it..

I think I would trade that Ford truck for a Chevy before I tried that though. :)

Chebby din't make tractors so I don't waste my money on their trucks.

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TimW(PA)

05-04-2008 12:09:58

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to gahorN, 05-04-2008 11:25:21

FOMOCO hated their tractors and put them out to pasture...so I don't buy their cars!
Nutter way to look at it

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Jim SC

05-04-2008 08:16:23

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to patrick 2N MD., 05-04-2008 06:33:26

You may want to take the liquid out of the 2N tires, maybe drain the radiator and oil sump to reduce weight and drag.

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Greg_Ky

05-04-2008 08:01:05

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to patrick 2N MD., 05-04-2008 06:33:26

Never seen a train car with rubber wheels before.

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ericlb

05-04-2008 06:46:37

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to patrick 2N MD., 05-04-2008 06:33:26

uuhh.. i believe that just might do the job! got any more of those horns? the ones on my kw are a little "soft" i needs more volume

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patrick 2N MD.

05-04-2008 07:36:24

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Re: Will this hitch pull 2n on trailer ok? Is it to small? in reply to ericlb, 05-04-2008 06:46:37

Sorry no extras. Look up nathen airchime K5LA.

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