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need help / ideas on 2 problems

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high pockets

05-07-2008 17:38:08




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'40 front mount

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[quote:60dee8a3db]I do have one immediate issue though. At time while running I'll barely hear. I'll shut it down and it'll end up being the starter spinning. At least that what it sounds like. It's not engaging the flywheel though. It's just spinning in place at high revs. I can take the button on the trans cover/base of dash and jiggle it up and down and it will stop.
I figured the button out front of the dash was sticking or something. I pulled it out and worked it a bit. It seems to operate smoothly. Next I figured it could be the rod that goes from the button on the trans cover/base of dash to the button out front. So while I had the front button off I reached in there with the handle of a screwdriver and pushed on the rod, while simultaneously pushing on the trans cover button. Back and forth I worked it. I lubed it and made sure there was nothing gunked up where it goes through that little inner wall. It seemed fine. Since I can get it to stop by jiggling the trans cover button I'm really thinking it has something to do with the button out front of the dash. It didn't have much resistance when I worked it while I had it removed. Could vibration be causing it? It boggles me though because like I said...it doesn't actually engage or even try to engage the flywheel when it happens. It's just spinning freely. [/quote:60dee8a3db]

after piddling with it for a bit tonight and running it again, the starter does actually try to engage, which of course it can't do...so it turns freely without trying to re-engage again. I'm not sure what's causing it. It doesn't stop unless I jiggle the button the trans cover. I can eventually get it to stop that way. It sometimes will do it again though. It seems sporadic.

2nd thing...

[quote:60dee8a3db]Last night I fired it up again and gave the lift a try..... . engaged the PTO, and it spun like the dickens. The lift rose nice & smooth.....up and up. It actually rose until the chains were taught and the lift arms were resting up against the under side of the axles. I wasn't quite expecting it to raise until it literally ran into something that manually stopped it.
Going down though was another issue. It flat out didn't want to budge. I shut off the PTO and shut down the N. I got around behind it and I could manually force the arms down by hand, though it was pretty dang rough.[/quote:60dee8a3db]

It seems that if I engage the PTO at all, the lift comes up. Whether I have the touch control lever up or down.... the lift comes up and doesn't stop until it hits the end of the chains or the under side of the axle. If I shut off the PTO, the lift stops and remains there. For it to come back down I have to push it down by hand; which isn't so easy.

Any suggetions???? What should I be checking?

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high pockets

05-08-2008 15:35:55




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 Re: need help / ideas on 2 problems in reply to Prepared..John,PA, 05-07-2008 17:38:08  
new cutout.... new starter button...

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high pockets

05-07-2008 18:49:04




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 Re: need help / ideas on 2 problems in reply to soundguy, 05-07-2008 17:38:08  

Dell (WA) said: (quoted from post at 21:35:13 05/07/08) High Pockets..... ...ref: yer #1-pblm, starter motor still spinning after starting and running..... . Welp, yer starter Bendix is doing its job, it is kicking OUT after starting up. This is normal. Most starter Bendix problems are "don't stay engaged" after 1-koff of starting ...or... don't engage at all 'cuz the Bendix screw is sticky from being oiled. NO OIL BENDIX; understand?
I say yer problem is yer 2-terminal roundcan starter switch under yer battery tray. The INTERNAL SPRING ain't forcing the switch contacts apart after you let up on the BIG starter push-button by the tranny shifter. It is good you cleaned and lubricated the safety interlock "jiggle-pushbar" but that ain't gonna release yer starter switch internal contacts. REPLACE yer 2-terminal starter switch. Make certain you get the CORRECT switch..... ...Dell


Thanks Dell -- I haven't oiled the bendix. Actually, I haven't even done anything with the starter itself other than put a new cable from it's post to the starter button.

The starter button is correct.... ordered new from YT about 4 months ago & installed a couple of weeks ago. I'm with you though...I kinda figured it had to be something with the button, and figured I should probably order another new one and try that.

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souNdguy

05-08-2008 06:03:03




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 Re: need help / ideas on 2 problems in reply to high pockets, 05-07-2008 18:49:04  
Lets be clear.. I believe dell is refering to the actual starter switch on the steering column back side.. not the actual thumb button by the shifter. Which did you replace?

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Dell (WA)

05-07-2008 18:35:13




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 Re: need help / ideas on 2 problems in reply to high pockets, 05-07-2008 17:38:08  
High Pockets..... ...ref: yer #1-pblm, starter motor still spinning after starting and running..... . Welp, yer starter Bendix is doing its job, it is kicking OUT after starting up. This is normal. Most starter Bendix problems are "don't stay engaged" after 1-koff of starting ...or... don't engage at all 'cuz the Bendix screw is sticky from being oiled. NO OIL BENDIX; understand?

I say yer problem is yer 2-terminal roundcan starter switch under yer battery tray. The INTERNAL SPRING ain't forcing the switch contacts apart after you let up on the BIG starter push-button by the tranny shifter. It is good you cleaned and lubricated the safety interlock "jiggle-pushbar" but that ain't gonna release yer starter switch internal contacts. REPLACE yer 2-terminal starter switch. Make certain you get the CORRECT switch..... ...Dell

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souNdguy

05-07-2008 17:44:12




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 Re: need help / ideas on 2 problems in reply to high pockets, 05-07-2008 17:38:08  
Check to see if the 3pt control is actually moving the control valve at the end of the fork.. etc. grit can stick them..

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