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Sean (TX)

05-08-2008 15:07:35

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Made some progress today.
left hand axle extension has new bearing, seal, bushings and is ready for primer. Right side has been in the electrolsis tank for 24 hours. This is a heavy unit :shock:
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Generator is primed and painted and ready to bolt on...

Part # is 9N10139G? Hard to read the last # or letter. Could be a 0 or G? any one know what year model this genny is out of? Its a 3 brush...Have most of my electrical parts. Still need key switch, wiring harness and I am looking for a wiring loom. Anyone have one for sale?

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Sean (TX)

05-16-2008 20:11:48

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Dan in CO, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

She steered it on the trailer :lol:
through the hood air intake is after market...it was rusted to hell :lol: Some jb weld and sand paper saved it..

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Pete Cowart

05-16-2008 19:47:15

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

I'm ducking as I ask this..... .What did the wife say?

That "stack" through the hood isn't factory is it?

And last but not least, Hope you got it "right".

Be nice if they were like "Christine" except for the possesion and the killing and the.....

Pete

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Sean (TX)

05-16-2008 19:22:02

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to John (TR), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Going to fix the front bumper in time....Its a bad mother... 8)

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Sean (TX)

05-16-2008 19:18:47

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Pete Cowart said: (quoted from post at 21:07:54 05/16/08)
Sean,

Have you got a "before" pic?

Pete

Here ya go...The day Fred arrived at his new home...Hauled him home from a Texas gulf coast town...He had some nuts and bolts that were so bad I had to chisel them off :lol: Head, rear axles you name it they were in random places...

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Pete Cowart

05-16-2008 19:07:54

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to GB in MT., 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Sean,

Have you got a "before" pic?

Pete

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Sean (TX)

05-16-2008 19:04:14

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Should have bet Ed some cash :lol:

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Sean (TX)

05-16-2008 19:00:15

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to KM WFTX, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

He looked like a basket case for sure!!!Anything is possible....Fred was a steal!!! I need to fire him up again...Nothing like that sound... :lol: Looks like Ed lost...Guess he didnt know I had some good 9N tin on hand that Fred could borrow for awhile 8) :lol:

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Sean (TX)

05-16-2008 18:36:10

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Doug Lloyd, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Pete Cowart said: (quoted from post at 20:32:18 05/16/08)
It looks really good, :D
Tell me I didn't see a "claw" hammer in one of those pics? might have to revoke your "mechanics license".

keep up the good work,

Pete

Drove the radius rod bolt in with the old eastwing...Its about wore out...Will have to get a new one soon...

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GB in MT.

05-16-2008 18:51:29

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-16-2008 18:36:10

Sean;

Every time I see the updates on Fred, I remember what he looked like when you got him home. No comparison!!!!! :shock:
Simply does not look like the same "N".

Ed, is probably gritting his teeth, about now!!!! :lol:
Gary :)

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Pete Cowart

05-16-2008 18:32:18

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to soundguy, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

It looks really good, :D
Tell me I didn't see a "claw" hammer in one of those pics? might have to revoke your "mechanics license".

keep up the good work,

Pete

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Sean (TX)

05-16-2008 18:30:53

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Rock On

Audio/Video clip:Fake it

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Sean (TX)

05-16-2008 18:27:34

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to gahorN, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Rear tires and genny on 8) Tent was in the way of getting the tires on....Goal for the weekend is right front hub and front rims....Need to relocate to a shade tree :lol: :D Cold front is in town...Low 58� tonight :D
Weak sister ignition switch and the resistor are in...May borrow the hood from my 9N for awhile...Needs to come off for the front axle pin anyways....You are going to LOSE ED 8) :lol: 8) :lol: third party image

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Sean (TX)

05-16-2008 13:18:27

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to WV8N, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Wish I was retired!! just dont work long days anymore...

Starter in...

Fan On...

Looks like I need to make a parts run. Dont have to correct bolt for the genny :(

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Ed S. (IL)

05-16-2008 13:00:01

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

You retired guys slay me...

;O)

es

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Sean (TX)

05-16-2008 10:39:02

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to G6 in Snook, TX, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Ed S. (IL) said: (quoted from post at 21:27:46 05/15/08) Please send 'em via UPS "Delayed Delivery" Ground Service... Like for next month delivery, or later if possible...
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Thats cold Ed...Looks like I have the rest of the afternoon to work on Fred... :lol:

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Ed S. (IL)

05-15-2008 19:27:46

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Please send 'em via UPS "Delayed Delivery" Ground Service... Like for next month delivery, or later if possible...
:P
es

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GB in MT.

05-16-2008 06:15:11

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Ed S. (IL), 05-15-2008 19:27:46

Ed S. (IL) said: (quoted from post at 19:27:46 05/15/08) Please send 'em via UPS "Delayed Delivery" Ground Service... Like for next month delivery, or later if possible...
:P
es

Do I detect, a little FRANTIC conspiracy here, ED. !!!!???? :lol:
Gary :)

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Sean (TX)

05-15-2008 18:34:31

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to GB in MT., 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Dan in CO said: (quoted from post at 20:10:17 05/15/08)
I have some. They are yours if you need them. Just send me an email with you address.

Email sent

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Dan in CO

05-15-2008 18:10:17

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Dunk, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

I have some. They are yours if you need them. Just send me an email with you address.

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Sean (TX)

05-15-2008 18:07:31

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Gary,kansas, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Not quite...1 front hub and 2 front rims need to be stripped and primed and painted....Always something...Started thinking about mounting the rear tires and remembered 6 rear lug nuts were rusted so bad I need to replace them...TSC was out of the grade 8 5/8-18 hex nuts :(

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Dan in CO

05-15-2008 17:58:48

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

If you had tin, it would be running and on the road by the end of the week.

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Sean (TX)

05-15-2008 17:32:52

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Leeworthy, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

First of all a big thank you to HCOOKE...He sent me a wiring loom at no charge...Way better then I was expecting,,,It was ready for paint and I mounted and painted it today :D So far two quarts of new holland red and it took 1 quart of ford gray to do the rear rims...All had the hardener in them... 8) :D
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The rest of the pics...

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Sean (TX)

05-15-2008 17:17:58

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Dan in CO, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Dan in CO said: (quoted from post at 18:55:30 05/15/08)
[/color:2e27394f2e][size=24:2e27394f2e][/size:2e27394f2e][color=red:2e27394f2e] WE WANT PICTURES!

uploading 8)

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Dan in CO

05-15-2008 16:55:30

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to soundguy, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

[/color:e4a2493229][size=24:e4a2493229][/size:e4a2493229][color=red:e4a2493229] WE WANT PICTURES!

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Sean (TX)

05-15-2008 14:55:23

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to New2Tractor, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Ill be back later with pic's..Just shot the first coat of gray on the rear rims....second coat of red on the belly after dinner... 8)

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Sean (TX)

05-13-2008 17:20:00

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Bruce (VA), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Dan in CO said: (quoted from post at 18:57:45 05/13/08)
I have been keeping my eye out for some tin here in Colorado for you where stuff just doen't rust too much. So far, only complete tractors available, but I will keep looking.

Let me know if you run accross one being parted out. I hear you have low humidity up there...Its sky high here!!! More so when we have a south east breeze coming in off the gulf of Mexico...that is most of the time....Someday I will get out of here and head north...

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Sean (TX)

05-13-2008 17:16:07

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Paul in MN, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Dunk said: (quoted from post at 18:55:09 05/13/08) Got me wanting to plow with the boat, as soon as you git 4 of them wheels on it.

:lol: One of the boys mentioned mounting them on the trailer :lol:

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Dan in CO

05-13-2008 16:57:45

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to G6 in Snook, TX, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

I have been keeping my eye out for some tin here in Colorado for you where stuff just doen't rust too much. So far, only complete tractors available, but I will keep looking.

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Dunk

05-13-2008 16:55:09

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Got me wanting to plow with the boat, as soon as you git 4 of them wheels on it.

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Sean (TX)

05-13-2008 16:49:32

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to 36 coupe, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Haul it down here and we can work something out 8) Cast iron and rims are easy...Took some time and fiber glass and bondo to repair the tin on my 9N...It was doable tin to fix..... To bad Fred sat in a field so long...Probably weathered a hurricane or two if he spent many years down on the gulf coast...Nice soil down there I bet he did some plowing in his day...He will be safer up this way...Just need to find some fixable tin for him...

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Dan in CO

05-13-2008 16:33:44

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Man do you ever do fine work. How about painting the beast for me? Ed's is looking great also. No matter who wins, you will both end up with good looking tractors, But I am partial to the 9/2 versus the 8.

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Sean (TX)

05-13-2008 16:10:10

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Greg in MO, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Ed you are falling behind 8) :lol:
Got some priming done today...Its 90� and drying pretty fast....

Didnt prime the rims leaning up against my boat...Just rolled them over when I got done...

I used packing tape around the rims...Sticks pretty good to rubber. They will get a finish coat wednesday.

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Hubs, clutch pedal, brake pedals primed and ready for a finish coat...

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Lower lift arms...air cleaner, knuckles...

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These are hanging from a shade tree :lol:
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Sean (TX)

05-13-2008 02:40:01

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to OKDAD, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Ed S. (IL) said: (quoted from post at 21:33:07 05/12/08) I am SO counting on Sean's lack of sheet metal to give me a chance to catch up!

e (Fred is look'N good!) s

Need to call a place in Fredricksburg hear they may have what I need :lol:

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JMOR

05-12-2008 20:24:41

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Fitter Roger, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

If you really want to dig into the gen model question, you need time on your hands & a visit to archives of nclub site for dozens of posts by don b & others.

You gotta look a lot, because there are a lot of twists, turns, back-track, etc, but in the end I believe there was one that said, in effect forget everything before, now this is it.

And if you trust my distillation of it all, then I think your "band all the way around" for tension adjust and 1-wire and maybe a few other indications that were covered means that you have a 2N10000 (produced starting ~1945).

He has a full set of Ford's blueprint/engineering drawings, so his info is what I would call as solid as it is going to get.

The rest is in understanding it.

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Ed S. (IL)

05-12-2008 19:33:07

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

I am SO counting on Sean's lack of sheet metal to give me a chance to catch up!

e (Fred is look'N good!) s

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Sean (TX)

05-12-2008 19:12:56

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Hobo,NC, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

GB in MT. said: (quoted from post at 20:02:10 05/12/08)

Fred is looking really good.

Did ya find a hood yet??

Hiya Dunk

Gary :)

Still looking. Thought I had a line on a hood but have not heard back...

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Dunk

05-12-2008 18:42:51

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Sup!!! Gary!!!

Tryin tah stay outta trouble...

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Dan in CO

05-12-2008 18:26:19

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Sean:

I'm soooo happy for Fred. He is starting to look like a tractor again. All new & shinny paint! Won't be long now once you get some new sheet metal for him.

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Dunk

05-12-2008 17:43:31

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Mama said they would be days like that...

She didn't say that they would come in bunches...

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Sean (TX)

05-12-2008 17:39:15

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to soundguy, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Dunk said: (quoted from post at 19:29:26 05/12/08) Fred is kicckin butt, and takin names....

What are you doing, drankin beer?
:lol:

I am now...Smashed my finger. Took a nice chunk out of it...Wrench slipped...

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GB in MT.

05-12-2008 18:02:10

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-12-2008 17:39:15

Fred is looking really good.

Did ya find a hood yet??

Hiya Dunk

Gary :)

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Dunk

05-12-2008 17:29:26

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Fred is kicckin butt, and takin names....

What are you doing, drankin beer?
:lol:

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Sean (TX)

05-12-2008 16:55:40

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to John (TR), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Got the pedals and dash back on today....Rain in the forcast till friday :(
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Sean (TX)

05-09-2008 02:31:03

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Toby McPeek, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

John (TR) said: (quoted from post at 21:27:16 05/08/08) Sean

Has the axel extension in the photo had the Ospho stuff on it? Or is it right out of the dunk tank? Its looking dark gray and I was wondering

I wire wheel them and treat with Ospho.

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John (TR)

05-09-2008 03:55:49

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-09-2008 02:31:03

I gotta try some Phosphoric acid. I'm off work next week, maybe I can find some.

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John (TR)

05-08-2008 19:27:16

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Sean
Has the axel extension in the photo had the Ospho stuff on it? Or is it right out of the dunk tank? Its looking dark gray and I was wondering

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Sean (TX)

05-08-2008 18:12:51

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to OK BILL, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Second axle extension cleaned up pretty good but is going to spend another 24 hours in the electrolsis tank. Added a few more parts to the tank...Last lower lift arm and the leveling rods...no gear box these are after market.

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Sean (TX)

05-08-2008 16:37:16

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to HCooke, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Picked up the FO-4. It must be a 9N10000C or a 2N 10000 or a 8N10000A

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Sean (TX)

05-08-2008 16:27:17

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Bruce (VA), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

This one is a 1 wire. It uses a cut out. I have a new one.

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Sean (TX)

05-08-2008 15:46:16

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Bruce (VA), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

Thanks...Another 8N genny on a 2N/9N ...O well its good enough for me. Atleast it is off a early 8N :D
Need to fire Fred up again before the final coat of paint so I can retorque the head bolts. I think I want a vertical exhuast.

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GB in MT.

05-08-2008 16:14:00

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:46:16

If ya still got your old V/R, you are all set, to set it up just like yer 9N.

Gary :)

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Sean (TX)

05-08-2008 15:35:59

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to jon, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

GB in MT. said: (quoted from post at 17:27:21 05/08/08)

SEAN;

According to what I can find in the parts manny, that genny (if it truly is a three brush) was used on 48-49 8N's prior to ser #263844.

The # you give (9N-101**-*) I think is the part# for the end plate of the genny.

HTH

Gary :)

Only # I could find and it was on the end plate. Its 3 brush has the high low adjustment.

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GB in MT.

05-08-2008 15:40:36

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:35:59

Sean;

The book says Part# 8N-10000-BLPR !948/49 generator assy.

Three brush..... befor ser#263844

There ya go. :lol:
Gary :)

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GB in MT.

05-08-2008 15:27:21

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

SEAN;

According to what I can find in the parts manny, that genny (if it truly is a three brush) was used on 48-49 8N's prior to ser #263844.

The # you give (9N-101**-*) I think is the part# for the end plate of the genny.

HTH

Gary :)

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Sean (TX)

05-08-2008 15:17:51

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Ceyl, 05-08-2008 15:07:35

How weird...My post was above yours and you posted first... :?: :?:

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Sean (TX)

05-08-2008 15:14:30

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Upper Peninsula,Mi., 05-08-2008 15:07:35

sweet...email sent...

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HCooke

05-08-2008 15:15:58

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Re: Fred update Continued in reply to Sean (TX), 05-08-2008 15:07:35

I have a wire loom. Will give it to you to make up for the backing plate that didn't fit. Email me you shipping address in case I can't find it.

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