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Dad's NAA - - compression test results

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Pete in Holland

05-08-2008 20:12:55




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Did a compression test on dad's NAA today. Results are 75, 90, 97, 88 psi dry, 120, 90, 120, 125 psi after a couple squirts of oil.

From my knowledge of engines, cylinders 1, 3 & 4 have good valves but leaky piston rings. Cylinder #2 may have a leaky valve too.

Tractor doesn't really do a lot of work. More for play. Runs reasonably well. What should the minimum pressure be in the cylinders? Am I approaching, in need of, or overdue for a rebuild?

Your thoughts ? Thanx !

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bva

05-09-2008 15:14:56




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 Re: Dad's NAA - - compression test results in reply to Pete in Holland, MI, 05-08-2008 20:12:55  
My assumption is, that you adjusted the valves before the compression test. If not, do that before you start pullin pieces apart.



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LeeMo

05-09-2008 08:16:08




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 Re: Dad's NAA - - compression test results in reply to Pete in Holland, MI, 05-08-2008 20:12:55  
If it starts and runs OK I'd leave it alone. Those aren't great numbers but useable. Unless you plan to work it hard and need maximum power out of it, it'll most likely run as is for quite a while yet. I've run them with a lot worse compression when I was broke and needed the machine.



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Dell (WA)

05-08-2008 21:39:49




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 Re: Dad's NAA - - compression test results in reply to Pete in Holland, MI, 05-08-2008 20:12:55  
Pete..... .as you can probably guess, them's AIN'T braggin' compressions. Ford specs for OHV Red-Tiger 134cu/in engine is 110psi min (dry). Usually an engine in good condition will come-up +20psi wet, yer uppin' +30psi wet. And yer #2 gottza burned exhaust valve, 'cuz it don't change wet or dry.

50# oil pressure is braggin' pressures.

Is it hard to start or reasonable? Iff'n it starts eazy, then probably NO need to rebuild.

Me? I'd probably give the rings some MMO (Marvel Mystery Oil) treatment (read can lable) Others like ATF (enny brand) to un-sticky the rings. Then after 3-days of MMO treatment, I'd do 'nutter compression test, dry then wet.

Iff'n it improves compression, and you generally don't burn oil, (you'll smogg the skeeters with the MMO treatment fer'bout 1/2-hr) then based upon its starting ability, base an engine rebuild decision (kit about $500) on yer skill level and desire. Professional rebuild $2000+

Remember, those old tractors were designed for horse farmers and you can operate a computer ..... .Dell

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Jerry/MT

05-08-2008 21:05:49




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 Re: Dad's NAA - - compression test results in reply to Pete in Holland, MI, 05-08-2008 20:12:55  
Did you run the test on an engine at operating temperature and have the throttle wide open? If you didn"t, you should.



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soundguy

05-08-2008 20:19:53




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 Re: Dad's NAA - - compression test results in reply to Pete in Holland, MI, 05-08-2008 20:12:55  
cyl 1 is worn.. but.. if she starts fine.. and probably does due to 3 other serviceable cyls.. then you are probably ok. as the comp in 1 will come up when running due to a lil oil on the rings.

Unless you are wanting to get 100% out of here .. she's probably fine for a light to moderate use tractor.

If oil pressue is good and she starts.. I'd be tempted to leave her alone. If you wanted to do a cheap on her.. drop in rings and do a hand lap on the valve seat that wasn't sealing well, and then drop in a new set of mains and rod bearings... remember to ream or check for ridge on cyl so you don't ruin the rings... this would be a poor mans upper and lower...

probably gain you a bit of compression, and a few psi oil pressure if it was low.. if if it was already high.. like 40+.. don't expect to see much more OP.

soundguy

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Pete in Holland, MI

05-08-2008 20:41:10




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 Re: Dad's NAA - - compression test results in reply to soundguy, 05-08-2008 20:19:53  
Soundguy -

Oil gauge shows around 50 psi (assuming it is reading correctly). Have thought about re-ringing it too.

Thanx for the advice.



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soundguy

05-08-2008 20:44:06




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 Re: Dad's NAA - - compression test results in reply to Pete in Holland, MI, 05-08-2008 20:41:10  
At 50 psi op.. I doubt you need bearings.. rings and reaming, and some hand lapping probably get you another 20ys on that engine before it wants anything else other than a clutch maybee... so just a cheapy 'upper' job then.. probably take all of a morning and lunch, if you have a helper and can borrow/rent the ridge reamer and the ring compressor.. etc..

soundguy



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