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New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission????

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Randal McAllist

05-21-2008 10:38:57

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New clutch...Not engaging transmission??? I just installed a new clutch kit on my 48 8N and polished the old flywheel face. After putting it all back together, it seems that the clutch (or ?) is not engaging the transmission. You can tell that the engine is not engaging the transmission in any way. I'm confused. How can the tranmission not be engaged at all? It's as if the clutch pedal is down all the time. Any tricks to installing a new clutch? Related to the polished flywheel? ...Appreciate any ideas....Looks like I will be splitting the old girl once again!

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ZANE

05-21-2008 18:18:11

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to Randal McAllister, 05-21-2008 10:38:57

Be sure that you have plenty of free travel in the clutch pedal before the throw out bearing makes contact with the fingers on the pressure plate.

I don't think you have the disc in backwards because if you did the clutch would be engaged all the time.

Double check the adjustment.

Zane

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NOXJohn

05-21-2008 13:19:47

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to Randal McAllister, 05-21-2008 10:38:57

After you tear it apart and put it back together you need to adjust the clutch pedal free play to 3/4". This holds the throw out bearing just off the pressure plate fingers. The manual has the instructions.

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soundguy

05-21-2008 10:40:33

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to Randal McAllister, 05-21-2008 10:38:57

Which way did you put the offset hub in? towards the tranny?

soundguy

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Randal McAllister

05-21-2008 10:45:06

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to soundguy, 05-21-2008 10:40:33

Offset hub? (Bear with me...) Is this part of the clutch kit?

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soundguy

05-21-2008 10:51:48

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to Randal McAllister, 05-21-2008 10:45:06

one side of the hub is nonger than the other clutch hub...

soundguy

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Randal McAllister

05-21-2008 11:01:34

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to soundguy, 05-21-2008 10:51:48

umm....not sure. A friend actually installed the clutch kit for me (I watched), but we did not know that there was a certain way to install it..so, are you talking about the hub that goes against the flywheel? And it needs to face a particular direction? Sorry for not being mechanically savvy.....

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GB in MT.

05-21-2008 11:26:46

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to Randal McAllister, 05-21-2008 11:01:34

Randal McAllister said: (quoted from post at 11:01:34 05/21/08) umm....not sure. A friend actually installed the clutch kit for me (I watched), but we did not know that there was a certain way to install it..so, are you talking about the hub that goes against the flywheel? And it needs to face a particular direction? Sorry for not being mechanically savvy.....

Randal;

Put this pic., (the center of it), along with what Soundguy and OLD just told you, and install it the right way. Then you will have CLUTCH.

Hope this clears it up for ya.

Gary :)

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Randal McAllister

05-21-2008 11:54:25

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to GB in MT., 05-21-2008 11:26:46

Thanks Gary...this really helps me understand what I need to do.

Just think...I had a 50-50 chance in getting it right the first time....just like my luck! ;)

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old

05-21-2008 11:08:23

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to Randal McAllister, 05-21-2008 11:01:34

If the disk is put in 180 out it will not sit like it needs to and will not work. On the disk theres a long side and a short side. The short side goes towards the flywheel and the longer side towards the pressure plate in if back wards it will do noting like yours is doing

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Randal McAllister

05-21-2008 11:12:55

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to old, 05-21-2008 11:08:23

Probably what we did..%&$#!!! Thanks for the info! Look at it this way...next time I will know and I'm getting real good in splitting it apart!!!

Thanks.

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soundguy

05-21-2008 11:07:04

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to Randal McAllister, 05-21-2008 11:01:34

yep.. right outside of the female splines.. you know.. the input shaft stabs the center of it.. etc.

soundguy

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Randal McAllister

05-21-2008 11:14:42

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to soundguy, 05-21-2008 11:07:04

Wonder why my manual doesn't mention this...!!!

Thanks...appreciate your help.

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soundguy

05-21-2008 11:20:20

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to Randal McAllister, 05-21-2008 11:14:42

?? Maybee they figure the mechanic will make notes on the orientation of the parts upon disassembly?

Dunno.. that's really not an answer. Actually.. if it was in the manual.. it would be helpfull to many not aware of it.

soundguy

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Randal McAllister

05-21-2008 11:47:43

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to soundguy, 05-21-2008 11:20:20

You got me there! The problem is that we took it apart months ago....I can't remember what I did last week! ;)

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soundguy

05-21-2008 11:59:20

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to Randal McAllister, 05-21-2008 11:47:43

i heard that. If i am working with unfamiliar parts or assemblies.. i usually like to take notes.. or lay out parts on carboard in reverse order orientation to facilitate re-assembly.. that and/or take pics with digital camera.. BTDT

soundguy

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36 coupe

05-22-2008 02:40:13

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to soundguy, 05-21-2008 11:59:20

Some clutch plates are marked Flywheel Side but looking back we knew about off set clutch hubs as teen agers.We were willing to read and ask questions before starting a job.We also watched how things came apart,part of the learning process.This seems to be lacking in many tractor owners.

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soundguy

05-22-2008 06:46:53

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Re: New Clutch ...Not Engaging Transmission???? in reply to 36 coupe, 05-22-2008 02:40:13

Ditto.. It is much easier to work on a piece of equipment if you can be there and help or watch it come apart. it's when somebody brings you a box of parts and a broke tractor that sometimes the head scratchin would start.. luckilly these old machines were designed somewhat with common sense approaches to fixin..

soundguy

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