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Dads Old Tractor

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Ron(ore)

06-30-1999 12:21:40




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The 2N's refurbish is going along at a blistering snails pace it seems to me, and my vacation is almost over so I'm sure I'll get her engine back from the machine shop (they're a little backed up right now, though they weren't when they got my engine) after I am back at work for someone else. I have a proofmeter mounted on the left side of the hood w/nutin' hooked to the gauge on the inside. On the back it says Mfg by John W. Hobbs Corp Springfield ILL USA. I would like to hook this proofmeter up to the 2N who's hood it has sat in for the last few decades. Can I get a rebuild kit for my Governor (Novi 9N governor) to facilitate making this proofmeter operational if the guage itself still works? Can I modify the governor housing to accept the cable needed to drive the proofmeter without too much work, a rebuilt 8N governor seems kind of high if I can make the 9N gov work with some modification? I Read a ton of the archives past info on the proofmeter and replace/repair/refurbishment, as well as printed a copy of Bg's Ford Faqs Proofmeter repair page. Can the BOARD give me advice on how to proceed as well as does anyone know if this is the proofmeter offered on 8N's? Seems kind of sad someone went to the trouble of buying the gauge, cutting a hole in the left side of the hood, mounting the gauge, and never finishing the job (something none of us have never been accused of!). I will have to look at the governor again to see what the housing looks like, besides a cable, a lot of work, and a small miracle, what else does the BOARD suggest I need to make the old meter work? I'm waitin' fer ma I&T BIBLE (FO-4) to come in the mail. Thanks in advance! Ron(ore)

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Ron(ore)

06-30-1999 18:52:16




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 Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to Ron(ore), 06-30-1999 12:21:40  
Well once again the new N owner on the block (me) ask a question before knowing what he was asking about! The gauge on the side of the hood on my 2N is an electric hour meter not a mechanical proof meter. I do believe I will move one of the aftermarket gauges mounted in the dash to the left side of the hood as the hole appears to be about the same size. If I have enough room I think I'd like to enlarge one of the holes in the dash where there should not be a gauge now to accomodate a real Proofmeter like that on a 8N. I would also like to replace the cheap unmatching aftermarket gauges now on my 2N with authentic looking 8N gauges. What all will I need to accomplish this? I see that YT & some other sites offer replacement temp, pressure, ammeter gauges and their sending units. What else will I need to order and plan on wiring changes etc.? I'm still curious about the Hobbs electric hourmeter I just removed from the hood. Any one familiar with it? And my previous questions still apply about the Governor as I still plan on getting a real proofmeter (BTW who has the best price do you think including a cable, meter, & shipping), Reproduction would be ok. My 2N isn't going to be all original 2N anyway, its going to be a working tractor that might as well have updated as close as possible to actual Ford N series components. Just like 2N's originally comming equiped with Steel wheels and a magneto, getting retro fitted with rubber tires and a distributor after the war. Hope the Board can help! Sorry for the mistaken ID on the hourmeter. Thanks Ron(ore)

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John C.

07-01-1999 05:25:21




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 Re: Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to Ron(ore), 06-30-1999 18:52:16  
Ron:
The proofmeter would have to be mounted on the righthand side of the dash if you planned to use the original type drive cable for it.
The left side mounting would probably be too much bending for a mechanical cable, IMO.



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doug davis

01-17-2002 19:46:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to John C., 07-01-1999 05:25:21  
looking for exhaust manifold for a, I say old ford 600 gas burner any help would be appreiciated.



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Ron(ore)

07-01-1999 19:00:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to John C., 07-01-1999 05:25:21  
Thanks, that makes sense now that you pointed it out. The gauge on the left of the dash is a ammeter and though it may or may not belong on a 2N in that location it looks like it could be an ammeter for N series tractors (black face & trim ring). But the gauge on the right is an oil pressure gauge that looks kind of like some Stewart Warner Gauges I've seen on cars (chrome trim ring, different style lettering and numbers on black face than the ammeter). I think I'll put the Proofmeter on the right & get a different oil guage to put where the hour meter was in the hood if I can route the tubes easy enough. Again thanks! Know anything about that old hourmeter? Ron(ore)

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Dell (WA)

07-02-1999 08:33:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to Ron(ore), 07-01-1999 19:00:55  
Ron..... ...Hobbs "hour meters" are quite common on all sorts of stationary engine installations, such as irrigation pumps, electric generators, hydraulic power carts. Some are mechanically driven like the old self-winding wrist watch by engine vibration. Some are battery powered from ignition system. New ones are transistorized and will probably suffer from Y2K (grin)

Hope this helps..... ..Dell

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Ron(ore)

07-01-1999 18:56:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to John C., 07-01-1999 05:25:21  
Thanks, that makes sense now that you pointed it out. The gauge on the left of the dash is a ammeter and though it may or may not belong on a 2N in that location it looks like it could be an ammeter for N series tractors (black face & trim ring). But the gauge on the right is an oil pressure gauge that looks kind of like some Stewart Warner Gauges I've seen on cars (chrome trim ring, different style lettering and numbers on black face than the ammeter). I think I'll put the Proofmeter on the right & get a different oil guage to put where the hour meter was in the hood if I can route the tubes easy enough. Again thanks! Know anything about that old hourmeter? Ron(ore)

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Ron(ore)

07-01-1999 18:51:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to John C., 07-01-1999 05:25:21  
Thanks, that makes sense now that you pointed it out. The gauge on the left of the dash is a ammeter and though it may or may not belong on a 2N in that location it looks like it could be an ammeter for N series tractors (black face & trim ring). But the gauge on the right is an oil pressure gauge that looks kind of like some Stewart Warner Gauges I've seen on cars (chrome trim ring, different style lettering and numbers on black face than the ammeter). I think I'll put the Proofmeter on the right & get a different oil guage to put where the hour meter was in the hood if I can route the tubes easy enough. Again thanks! Know anything about that old hourmeter? Ron(ore)

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07-01-1999 18:50:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to John C., 07-01-1999 05:25:21  
Thanks, that makes sense now that you pointed it out. The gauge on the left of the dash is a ammeter and though it may or may not belong on a 2N in that location it looks like it could be an ammeter for N series tractors (black face & trim ring). But the gauge on the right is an oil pressure gauge that looks kind of like some Stewart Warner Gauges I've seen on cars (chrome trim ring, different style lettering and numbers on black face than the ammeter). I think I'll put the Proofmeter on the right & get a different oil guage to put where the hour meter was in the hood if I can route the tubes easy enough. Again thanks! Know anything about that old hourmeter? Ron(ore)

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Ron(ore)

07-01-1999 18:50:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to John C., 07-01-1999 05:25:21  
Thanks, that makes sense now that you pointed it out. The gauge on the left of the dash is a ammeter and though it may or may not belong on a 2N in that location it looks like it could be an ammeter for N series tractors (black face & trim ring). But the gauge on the right is an oil pressure gauge that looks kind of like some Stewart Warner Gauges I've seen on cars (chrome trim ring, different style lettering and numbers on black face than the ammeter). I think I'll put the Proofmeter on the right & get a different oil guage to put where the hour meter was in the hood if I can route the tubes easy enough. Again thanks! Know anything about that old hourmeter? Ron(ore)

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Ron(ore)

07-01-1999 18:50:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to John C., 07-01-1999 05:25:21  
Thanks, that makes sense now that you pointed it out. The gauge on the left of the dash is a ammeter and though it may or may not belong on a 2N in that location it looks like it could be an ammeter for N series tractors (black face & trim ring). But the gauge on the right is an oil pressure gauge that looks kind of like some Stewart Warner Gauges I've seen on cars (chrome trim ring, different style lettering and numbers on black face than the ammeter). I think I'll put the Proofmeter on the right & get a different oil guage to put where the hour meter was in the hood if I can route the tubes easy enough. Again thanks! Know anything about that old hourmeter? Ron(ore)

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07-01-1999 18:49:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to John C., 07-01-1999 05:25:21  
Thanks, that makes sense now that you pointed it out. The gauge on the left of the dash is a ammeter and though it may or may not belong on a 2N in that location it looks like it could be an ammeter for N series tractors (black face & trim ring). But the gauge on the right is an oil pressure gauge that looks kind of like some Stewart Warner Gauges I've seen on cars (chrome trim ring, different style lettering and numbers on black face than the ammeter). I think I'll put the Proofmeter on the right & get a different oil guage to put where the hour meter was in the hood if I can route the tubes easy enough. Again thanks! Know anything about that old hourmeter? Ron(ore)

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Ron(ore)

07-01-1999 18:49:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to John C., 07-01-1999 05:25:21  
Thanks, that makes sense now that you pointed it out. The gauge on the left of the dash is a ammeter and though it may or may not belong on a 2N in that location it looks like it could be an ammeter for N series tractors (black face & trim ring). But the gauge on the right is an oil pressure gauge that looks kind of like some Stewart Warner Gauges I've seen on cars (chrome trim ring, different style lettering and numbers on black face than the ammeter). I think I'll put the Proofmeter on the right & get a different oil guage to put where the hour meter was in the hood if I can route the tubes easy enough. Again thanks! Know anything about that old hourmeter? Ron(ore)

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Ron(ore)

07-01-1999 18:47:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to John C., 07-01-1999 05:25:21  
Thanks, that makes sense now that you pointed it out. The gauge on the left of the dash is a ammeter and though it may or may not belong on a 2N in that location it looks like it could be an ammeter for N series tractors (black face & trim ring). But the gauge on the right is an oil pressure gauge that looks kind of like some Stewart Warner Gauges I've seen on cars (chrome trim ring, different style lettering and numbers on black face than the ammeter). I think I'll put the Proofmeter on the right & get a different oil guage to put where the hour meter was in the hood if I can route the tubes easy enough. Again thanks! Know anything about that old hourmeter? Ron(ore)

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Ron(ore)

07-01-1999 18:35:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to John C., 07-01-1999 05:25:21  
Thanks, that makes sense now that you pointed it out. The gauge on the left of the dash is a ammeter and though it may or may not belong on a 2N in that location it looks like it could be an ammeter for N series tractors (black face & trim ring). But the gauge on the right is an oil pressure gauge that looks kind of like some Stewart Warner Gauges I've seen on cars (chrome trim ring, different style lettering and numbers on black face than the ammeter). I think I'll put the Proofmeter on the right & get a different oil guage to put where the hour meter was in the hood if I can route the tubes easy enough. Again thanks! Know anything about that old hourmeter? Ron(ore)

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Ron(ore)

07-01-1999 18:34:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to John C., 07-01-1999 05:25:21  
Thanks, that makes sense now that you pointed it out. The gauge on the left of the dash is a ammeter and though it may or may not belong on a 2N in that location it looks like it could be an ammeter for N series tractors (black face & trim ring). But the gauge on the right is an oil pressure gauge that looks kind of like some Stewart Warner Gauges I've seen on cars (chrome trim ring, different style lettering and numbers on black face than the ammeter). I think I'll put the Proofmeter on the right & get a different oil guage to put where the hour meter was in the hood if I can route the tubes easy enough. Again thanks! Know anything about that old hourmeter? Ron(ore)

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Ron(ore)

07-01-1999 18:31:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to John C., 07-01-1999 05:25:21  
Thanks, that makes sense now that you pointed it out. The gauge on the left of the dash is a ammeter and though it may or may not belong on a 2N in that location it looks like it could be an ammeter for N series tractors (black face & trim ring). But the gauge on the right is an oil pressure gauge that looks kind of like some Stewart Warner Gauges I've seen on cars (chrome trim ring, different style lettering and numbers on black face than the ammeter). I think I'll put the Proofmeter on the right & get a different oil guage to put where the hour meter was in the hood if I can route the tubes easy enough. Again thanks! Know anything about that old hourmeter? Ron(ore)

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Ron(ore)

07-01-1999 18:29:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Dads Old Tractor in reply to John C., 07-01-1999 05:25:21  
Thanks, that makes sense now that you pointed it out. The gauge on the left of the dash is a ammeter and though it may or may not belong on a 2N in that location it looks like it could be an ammeter for N series tractors (black face & trim ring). But the gauge on the right is an oil pressure gauge that looks kind of like some Stewart Warner Gauges I've seen on cars (chrome trim ring, different style lettering and numbers on black face than the ammeter). I think I'll put the Proofmeter on the right & get a different oil guage to put where the hour meter was in the hood if I can route the tubes easy enough. Again thanks! Know anything about that old hourmeter? Ron(ore)

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