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Ron(ore)

07-15-1999 08:25:18




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Hey guys( No offence to any of you gals out there, I refer to the gals on my daughters softball team as guys. Such as " Get yer head in the game guys!"), I've been reading the archives and the recent postings of late about the cal cloride used as ballast in the tires. Can I get feedback one more time as to why it is used to begin with? My question may seem ignorant, but would't most impliments mounted to the three point (I said most) put most of their weight on the rear wheels? Did anyone ever find a source for wheel weights for the front and rear wheels for those times you just need the extra weight? Ron(ore)

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Jerry Kirkpatrick (TN)

07-15-1999 14:18:07




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 Re: 2N Trouble's in reply to Ron(ore), 07-15-1999 08:25:18  
The most recent copy of the 9N-2N-8N-NAA newsletter has an ad from an outfit who has both wheel weights and axle weights for sale. I'll look it up tonight and post the name of the company and it's url (if it has one).

These would be much more flexible than liquid in the tires if you intend to use your tractor for more than draft work. If you mow, you sure don't want the extra weight because it would compact the soil and be counterproductive to a nice lawn.

JK (TN)

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Ron from IL

07-15-1999 10:30:44




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 Re: 2N Trouble's in reply to Ron(ore), 07-15-1999 08:25:18  
Hi Ron!

Ron from IL here. Just wanted to pass along an idea from a man who I considerto be a real authority on all types of tractors concerning wheel weights. Now, mind you, I haven't personally tried this method, but it makes sense to me.

This guy said that he never liked to put calcium chloride or other liquids in the wheels because of the damage usually caused. His alternative is this:

Take the wheels off the tractor, turn them upside down (inner rim up) on the ground. Drill several holes through the rim (3's about enough) 1/2" in diameter. In these holes, put three bolts about 6" long, threads to the ground side, long part of the bolt up. Line the inside of the rim with garbage bags or some other polyethylene and build some kind of dam around where the axle would attach to the rim (he used a salad bowl). Then, fill the unside of the rim with concrete level with the rim.

He said that these weights had the advantages of:
1.) No liquids to rot the rims, 2.) Easy to remove--just take the rims off, flop over, remove the nuts, and the weight falls free, and 3.) They don't stick out like conventional bolt-on weights.
Just something to think about. Ron

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Neat idea! Thanks. Larry8N75381 ... DNR

07-15-1999 17:12:27




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 Re: Re: 2N Trouble's in reply to Ron from IL, 07-15-1999 10:30:44  
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bg

07-15-1999 10:04:45




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 Re: 2N Trouble's in reply to Ron(ore), 07-15-1999 08:25:18  
Agricultural engineers have fought a long battle with wheel slip. There have been many advances in tread design, and although the implement does add weight when transported, it becomes a dead weight when dragged through the dirt. Water in the wheels gives more weight and a solid footprint that keeps more rubber on the ground. Without it the tire ride higher and tend to spin and slip more.



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Dell (WA)

07-15-1999 09:42:12




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 Re: 2N Trouble's in reply to Ron(ore), 07-15-1999 08:25:18  
Ron..... ....calcium chloride made the water heavier and acted as an "anti-freeze" and was cheep and eazy to come-by and took weight off the tractor "frame" and put it where it was "needed", on the ground and didn't overload the tire weight capacity.

Basically, weight is needed for "traction" which is normally needed for "plowing".

The disadvantage of "weight" no matter where it is still costs horse-power to move it besides the hp needed to pull the plow through the soil and "weight" compacts the soil making it more difficult to grow plants and allowing the rain to soak in.

It's my opinion, if you really need weight for plowing, use "used anti-freeze" from the recycler. It is non-corrosive to your iron wheels when the inner-tube leaks (and they will) and it is also rubber friendly. Disadvantage of anti-freeze is it is poisoneous to pet dogs who like the taste and it is not quite as heavy per gallon as calcium chloride.

Most N-tractor are no longer are used for plowing and if you think weight in the rear wheels help brush-hogging or front end loaders, think again.

Just my opinion..... ..Dell

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Ron(ore)

07-15-1999 11:22:51




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 Re: Re: 2N Trouble's in reply to Dell (WA), 07-15-1999 09:42:12  
Ya know, when we go down to the Pizza parlor (6 kids, me N ma), I ask what kind of Pizza should we get? I generally get 6 different answers, then I say what I think, then Ma Orders what she wants decideing for all of us! That's one of the neat things about this Board, you ask for and get, different opinions on the same subject from different people who have their own valid and unique reasons for forming their opinions. Now if I can just figure out which opinion best fits my circumstance? Here's another one to run up the flagpole and see if anyone will salute? I'm waiting for my original I&T service manual to come that I ordered, but with all the discussion we had following that one I've decided to order the Jennsales 147 page sevice manual FO-S-2N,8N,9N from our sponser here at YT. I also am getting the Parts Manual 228pgs FO-P-2N,8N,9N & what they list as the 2N operators manual same # as the 9N (9N-OPS). Is anyone familiar with the Ford Ferguson Impliments Parts Manual, 86pgs FO-P-FERG IMP? Does it have a different exploded diagram and parts list than that of the N-Series Parts manual of 228pgs. Right now all I have is a Ferguson rear box scraper, but hope to add to my impliments as I find them. For the extra $30 is it worth adding to my growing N library for future reference or unlikely it will provide much N the way of useful N-fo that can't be gleaned from the other publications or you guys at the Board? Ron(ore)

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Dell (WA)

07-16-1999 09:23:47




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 Re: Re: Re: 2N Trouble's in reply to Ron(ore), 07-15-1999 11:22:51  
Ron..... ...I don't know about the "86pgs FO-P-FERG IMP". My wife thinks I am loose cannon in a bookstore. I generally like to "eyeball" books first before buying them. If you got the spare $30, well..... .Dell



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Nolan

07-15-1999 10:26:16




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 Re: Re: 2N Trouble's in reply to Dell (WA), 07-15-1999 09:42:12  
Rear weight helps the heck out of a front end loader. It counterbalances the weight of the bucket and allows the operator to continue using the steering wheel for directional control and not just a convenient place to lay ones hands. For front end loaders, rear weight is a necessary.



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